[nodisharmony]

I have merged the two posts by you together, to save minutes of my valuable time

I can see by your below posts, that you Eat, Breathe & Sleep War.......well, it seems that way!

But I bet you don't know as much about the Spice Girls

Anyway, I shall reply to your posts anyhow

Originally posted by spacebandit

No, all chemical, biological and nuclear weapons leave a signature that can be detected by military satellite and spy plane

That is handy to know and I will admit, I wasn't aware of that.

Of course, it could be bypassed in some way? But I shall agree that it is unlikely

Originally posted by spacebandit

how do you think we knew exactly how many mobile ICBMS the russians had during the cold war.

Once again, you know your stuff

Originally posted by spacebandit

Then there is the question of bunkers, and therein lies the rub, bunkers need men and machines to build them - even naturally occuring caves for storage need preperation, US spy satellites pinpointed EVERY possible site where WMD could be - NO, they are not there, There were none after 1991 / 92.

If the information is real, then I shall go along with that

Originally posted by spacebandit

After Desert Storm [Gulf War One] Iraq complied with all UN Resolutions regarding its weapons systems, all its WMD were destroyed at that time, a fact verified by the United Nations and accepted by the then US administration

Right, okay?

Originally posted by spacebandit

No, and are you really so ill informed ?.

Well, you seem to have it all covered?? At least, it appears that way, from someone who knows how to write it so quaintly

Originally posted by spacebandit

Iraq complied with all UN Weapons Inspectors searches prior to 2003. There was of course some complaints from the Iraqi's about "sovereignty" but every site that was to be inspected was inspected, up to a point, when the inspections prematurely ceased. And what was that point ?

There must have been some descrepancies somewhere

Originally posted by spacebandit

It was when George Bush decided to press ahead BEFORE the UN had completed its inspections. Against the wishes of the UN and under strong condemnation from the UN wepns inspection team, which included some Americans, the United States forced the removal of the weapons inspectors before they had finished their job, and then used that as a pretext for war saying the weapons inspectors were unable to finish their inspections and so claimed Iraq breached the UN resolutions.

So, from what you say, George W. Bush went to war, because of the money which could be made from possessing those oil-fields..

I am very sure, there will be a very good contrary opinion to yours.

If there wasn't, George W. Bush would never had been re-elected. He would actually be in a lot of trouble, which he isn't by the way

Originally posted by spacebandit

Its a well worn tactic, YOu did it here with your molsem torture thread.

Abu Omar, an Egyptain cleric who got tortured by Americans because the Americans felt like it.

I know how you viewed it, but it isn't that way, is it...

Originally posted by spacebandit

Where are they - gone after the end of Gulf War One

The war was about oil, you say it is "a prize"

Calling it a prize is both shameful and disingenuos as OIL was the goal.

We now know that the war was started on lies.

How you put it into words, sounds very plausable, but like I said, the USA will be able to tell a much different story which tears your opinion to shreds.

The News tells us a much different story.

Also, they tend to talk about all the dead troops who have sacrificed their lives for a just cause.

But from what you say, it was all about "Oil"

I don't think the troops that are there or, are going in feel that the fight is JUST for Oil, so are they all fooled??

Come on Spacebandit, they must realise something?

Originally posted by spacebandit

What was the first thing US troops did when entering Iraq ?

Assist civilians ?
Fix and protect the water supply [important as it is a desert country]
Get the electricity back on ?
get hospitals up and running ?

No

None of the above

Specially prepared squads of US Marines secured oilfields, pumping stations and oil embarcation facilities

Who gets to control, Iraq's oil. Under a bill sponsored by the United States Government - two US companies now control the supply and distribution and Iraqs oil.

But, if you read so much about these facts, you must also know that the USA had something contrary to say, but you doubt all of that and look to the way YOU choose to see it.

BLAME THE WEST......

As always

Originally posted by spacebandit

Iraq did not have any WMD, the US and UK Governments were told that prior to the war, and it has now been proven right

Were they proven before George W. Bush was re-elected?

Originally posted by spacebandit

Iraq did not start the war - it is simple to discover the true cause of the start of it

The USA invaded and naturally, Iraqi's will defend themselves. But, it was the threat of attacking Israel and possibly The West, which created these circumstances...

A threat, is a threat....WMD's or NOT!!!!

Saddam Hussain was to blame, right?

Originally posted by spacebandit

Iraq threatened to invade no-one. We were warned Iraq could strike at us, but we have since been informed by our "great leaders" that they were wrong. Them being wrong was no secret before the war started, in fact we now know the lied about it

It could be possible if the President wishes to admit it?

Has he?

NO, he stands by the opposite of what you say and have read

Originally posted by spacebandit

You say that Iraq said they had WMD, and so its their fault. Of course they did, and here is why.

North Korea has a genocidal maniac as a leader, human rights abuses are horrific, it has nuclear weapons, and that is verified. Yet we do not invade - Why ?

We do not invade BECAUSE they have nuclear weapons.

Iraq had a genocidal maniac as a leader, supported and sponsored for many years by the United States, human rights abuses were, and still are horrific, it claimed it had WMD and was about to have a nuclear weapon. and yet we invaded - Why ?

We invaded because our governments knew there were no WMD and they thought they could win.

that is why Iraq claimed to have WMD - to try and fend off invasion.

Kim Il Jon in North Korea is arguably as bad as Saddam - we know that, but we don't invade, we don't invade because no US and UK administration would survive the slaughter of hnudreds of thousands of its troops massing to invade North Korea when Kim Il Jon nukes them, and then we nuke his people - he'll be safe miles underground in a bunker.

I am not too aware of the North Korea situation, so I shall not elaborate too much.

This is very interesting once again, as you seem well versed, but once again, you wish to criticise the West..

Originally posted by spacebandit

We have shown the world that bullies prosper, we have shown the world that evil thugs will be dispensed with, unless they have a nuclear weapon - then we will negotiate with them. bearing that in mind, it is no suprise Iran is desperate to get hold of a nuclear weapon, it guarantees border security from an oil grab.

That is over-the-top....

Bullies do exist, but the USA is a super-power and there will be problems at times, but War is necessary sometimes to acheive a certain goal.

In the USA's opinion, the War was necessary in this case and for the reasons we all saw on the News at that time.

What you have learnt and read is not enough..

Originally posted by spacebandit

You really should try to keep up

You are very good Spacebandit and these recent posts of your's are nothing short of pure brilliance.

But


The American Government will always have a different angle, and we know that...









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