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Old 18-07-2007, 07:39 AM #3
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I will make one thing clear, (as this post of your's Spacebandit is full of innuendo and very serious too)

There are two sides in a debate, (the defence) & (the prosecution)

You are giving your educated opinion on the debate at hand and from seeing your various posts, they certainly look very credible, but however, you must expect opposition & that is what you shall receive, however much you claim to know.

Past hostilities between the "opposition" are neither-here-nor-there.

The debates are the debates and ego or anything else is to be ignored, which the opposition must do!




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Of course they do, in fact lets indulge in some crystal gazing of our very own, what actions can we expect to see from the band of chickenhawks in charge of the worlds biggest superpower over the next 18 months - two years.
I can only assume from your description of the (United States of America) "chickenhawks" that your mind is ALREADY made up about them! So anything which follows that in the way of debate or opinion of THAT Country must be clouded, in the way of JUDGEMENT!!!

Your opinions below, I shall comment on in my usual way.....

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Originally posted by spacebandit

1. {I'd wager on this one}

the United States will stay quagmired in iraq until November 2008 - the troop numbers will probably be reduced by then, but in any case young americans will still be dying for the profit margins of a few US companies. The Bush administration will keep upping the ante and getting US soldiers killed and G-d alone knows how many Iraqi's. Then in November 2008 the United States will elect a democratic president. Within 3 months at most, but probably within one month the corporate controlled media will be blaming the democratic president for the whole thing with a sleight of hand that would make Goebbels proud - you see thats the way it works. Bush does not care one jot for the lives of americans or anyone else, he will happily make the situation as bad as possible just to leave it in the lap of the next president
You are very well versed "Spacebandit", and I shall take on board your opinions on what MAY happen & if it does, I shall applaud you on your speculation.

But for now, it is only an educated opinion.

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Look at the companies who have made the most money from the war in iraq via US Government contracts - then look at the boards of directors - therein lies the real cause of the Iraqi War, money for an elite few connected to the Bush family, and of course the Bush family themselves, .
Corruption exists and money brings power, we all know that! and I certainly don't deny that fact either.

It is a possibility and perhaps more than that?

But we can only speculate, can't we?

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Originally posted by spacebandit

Lets not forget the business ties between the Bush Family and the Bin laden family stretching back to 1972. Look them up, very interesting stuff.

or

2. [and this is the scary one]

The United States will invade, or other wise seriously attack Iran. The United States government will suspend the presidential election of 2008, a US president cannot serve for more than two terms so a state of emergency will have to be called. Under normal circumstances this would cause serious internal problems, with armed militia and civil unrest, as it will be seen for exactly what it is, a coup in sheeps clothing.
Very plausable and well written......

Regarding "Business ties, between Bin Laden", Well, perhaps they were good in the past & things changed for the worse?

Many people in business for years & years can suddenly turn into mortal enemies when something BAD happens to cause the problem

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Originally posted by spacebandit

You may say I am indulging in wild speculation, indeed I may, however ......in 2006 George Bush, suspended the The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 - this act forbade the deployment of United States Army, Navy or Air Force personnel on US soil, [with the exception of the National Guard]. the change in the law was sneaked in, tacked onto the end of the Patriot Act 2. There was no reason to suspend a law that has stood unchanged for over nearly 130 years - unless the President and his administration suspect they may need the full might of their own military within their own borders - food for thought.
There is nothing wrong with "Speculation", but if the facts were as clear as YOU speculate, then they could be taken to court and prosecuted.

But, the FBI & CIA + other organizations can make this go away, very quickly.

A superpower get's that name for a very good reason..


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Originally posted by spacebandit

You claim time and time again I am "anti-west"
I charge you to prove that
Your many posts always seem to be pointing that way.

When I chose to point the arrow to the middle-east, simply because of the neverending Wars which are happening over there for years & years, you then turn the argument round and blame the West.

I can only say what I see....

If I see you blaming the East for something, I wouldn't make that statement, would I?

But you never seem to, it is like you are their protectors and not only them, but a defender of, "Well, you know!!!" Don't you?

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I am for law and order, and the united states breaches international law daily
"Law & Order", I know your intentions.....

The United States will break laws, because Corruption exists and George W. Bush is known as a Warmonger, but the majority re-elected him.

He must be good then!!??

You are looking through (hateful eyes) Which is pretty much 99.9% of your posts.

Negativity and having a go at something, that would make anyone think that you have an (axe to grind)

Today it is America.....(Who's next on your list??)

Somewhere in the West? Could be?

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Originally posted by spacebandit

You excuse it
I state my observations and give my opinions and facts on each situation.

If you make an error or a mistake, I shall point it out in my usual way.

I know you will always do the same...

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I call for it to be brought to account and will proudly convey my convictions in this matter
"In this matter", you make serious accusations against the United States of America.

That is noticed, very noticed.....

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You applaud the attacks on brown people because they were unfortnate enough to be born over an oil field,
This is RUBBISH!!!!!! I am talking about middle-eastern countries and because they may have brown-skin's is nothing to do with this debate.

I am very aware of how many brown-skinned people reside and live in other Countries, in the West, am I picking on them? (NO!!)

I say that Saddam Hussain & his lot, didn't do enough to convince the USA that they had NO intentions of attacking Israel or maybe the West?

Remember, they won't tell us everything.

It will be on a need-to-know-basis only....

That is how they work...

Also, the Oil-Fields was brought up by yourself...

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Originally posted by spacebandit

you are happy at the "prize" of the oil we will get - or rather americans get, do they pay £5 a gallon - do they hell
If America takes control, which they intend to. The Oil-Fields are there and the word (Prize) is how anyone would look at those Oil-Fields.

I don't know much about the price of Oil, I haven't looked as late...

But, if the USA win the war, then the Oil-Fields are there for the taking, (Free).

But the War is costing the USA a fortune..



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Originally posted by spacebandit

Whereas I expect my elected leaders, and the leaders of the "democracies" to obey the rule of international law, if they break them I expect them to face charges in the World Court in The Hague.
But, if you are so interested in justice, then why don't you do something about it?

I guess it is like the attitude of New Yorkers.

They say, that if you dropped dead in the streets of New York, nobody would lift a finger to help?

So many people, much to busy and uncaring to do anything.

If you know there is a crime and you can report that crime and do something about it, then you should know the answer...

I think there is huge opposition to what you say and that is your problem. Something YOU chose NOT to point out.

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Originally posted by spacebandit

Other leaders, dictators, murdering thugs etc should of course be subject to the rule of international law
Tell us something we don't know

People get away with stuff, as nobody has the guts to report it. Sit down and do nothing, gossip, speculate...

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Originally posted by spacebandit

It is really this simple :

I believe in law and justice and expect it to be brought fairly, without fear or favour on everyone who breaks the law, white, brown. black, yellow, red, christian, moslem, jew, hindu, someone who has appeared on a trifling tv show - EVERYONE
Believing in that way of life is a joke

I see gangs forming, much nearer than you think and many get away with stuff due to all kinds of secret deals going on everywhere.

Propaganda and mutterings + funny handshake deals and many times, expecially two in particular are happy to secretly be a part of that and then preach about law & order, when they can't get their own lives in order.

Think on regardless

"A Triffling TV show", I guess you mean Big Brother, which is what this site is all about and many fans are here also, watching what you say is a "Triffling TV show"

It's actually called "Entertainment"..

Some people read books on War and Politics and some choose to live a happy life watching TV shows like "Big Brother", hardly Triffling, I might add

You say "someone" from a show. (Let me guess their names) 1) Jade Goody, 2) Danielle Lloyd, 3) Jo O'Meara, 4) Jack Tweed, 5) Emily Parr

Am I right or am I right?

I wonder why you have those particular house-mates in mind?

Well, I know why, don't I

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You beleive that might is always right
"Might is Always Right??" Endemol is mighty, do I stick up for them? You read my posts, don't you....

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Originally posted by spacebandit

That white is always right
Paris Hilton commited a crime and I said that she shouldn't be treated any differently because of her Celebrity status.

She is White and I don't defend criminals.

If there is a defence side, I shall look at that and if they are truly guilty, I shall agree with that.

CBB5 was a very corrupt affair and I chose to prove my case, just like you have strong issues with the USA as displayed here

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and you cheerlead the bully
You can't let this Jade Goody thing go, can you?

Blame her for everything...

Lucky I know differently

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it IS who you are.
You are so, so, so , so wrong. Blinded by hatred and paranoia beyond all imagination.

Your 99.9% of your posts yearns the truth so well..

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Now, do you wish me to keep handing you your hat ?
I am not a hat person, it get's in the way of my Halo









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