[hot2go]

John didn't manipulate Darren at all....but Darren is manipulating John....all that crap last night in the noms, total manipulation ....either accept someone's apology or don't...don't go around with the hugs and the big gestures of forgiveness then drag it all up again when it suits ya...Darren is a fake....and Johns concern about Darren was warranted, he was right....Darren been clean from cigarettes for 18 months now he smokes so heavy every time he blows his nose he has a fall of soot....I guarantee that if he hits the bottle he will again use John as his excuse...I find Darren twitchy and nervous and flaky