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"It has nothing to do with PC, our popular media and even Cameron have openly promoted coercion, suspicion and demonisation against the entire Muslim population in Britain and anyone who uses that same freedom of speech and dissent to fight back on their behalf is accused of being PC, soft in the head and terrorist supporters?!?" There are things that frighten me much more than news stories like this and that's the rising and very general Islamophobia in this country and the police state that appears to be going up around them."
This view above CONTRADICTS itself and DEMONSTRATES the VERY practice of 'POLITICAL CORRECTNESS' gone bad and mad which I HIGHLIGHTED in my post, and which it is DENYING.
NOWHERE in my post did I mention ORDINARY PEACEFUL, LAW ABIDING MUSLIMS - I CLEARLY and SPECIFICALLY referred only to JIHADISTS, TERRORISTS and their SUPPORTERS.
Your post is naively confusing a detestation of ISLAMIC TERRORISTS with ISLAMOPHOBIA because NO right-minded peson hates MUSLIMS - ONLY MUSLIM TERRORISTS. There are MILLIONS of ordinary, peace-loving, deeply spiritual and decent MUSLIMS in the world who DETEST ISIS and similar terrorist organisations who CLAIM to represent ISLAM and who claim to be perpetrating their barbaric evil in the name of Allah - are these decent Muslims ISLAMAPHOBIC?
The view that "our popular media and even Cameron have openly promoted coercion, suspicion and demonisation against the entire Muslim population in Britain" is also PATENTLY FALSE, because - once again - this view is entirely confused.
THERE IS A HUGE GULF OF DIFFERENCE in responsible authorities and organisations imploring the populace to be be especially dilligent and careful around a certain section of society BECAUSE these vile terrorists ARE after all MUSLIM, and HAVE, after all, secreted themselves among DECENT MUSLIMS communities, and in those same responsible authorities and organisations preaching ISLAMAPHOBIA - which they are most certainly NOT.
Would it be MORE rational and acceptable if our Security Services and 'Police State'
went "up around", say, 'The Grimsby Society Of Ugly Neglected Fishwives' instead?
That would be a massive waste of money and resources - looking in the wrong areas for terrorists, and watching the wrong communities - but no doubt it would greatly please the terrorists themselves and those who support them.
In any event, please provide hard evidence for what is stated in this view.
"and anyone who uses that same freedom of speech and dissent to fight back on their behalf is accused of being PC, soft in the head and terrorist supporters?!?"
The above is simply NOT TRUE.
One cannot 'FIGHT BACK' on behalf of MUSLIMS, if it is NOT MUSLIMS who are being attacked - only MUSLIM TERRORISTS.
Your intentions may be 'noble' and 'chivalrous' but in reality, your views are misguided, because - as stated above - you are confusing ordinary MUSLIMS with MUSLIM EXTREMIST KILLERS, and confusing CONDEMNATION of MUSLIM TERRORIST KILLERS with condemnation of ordinary MUSLIMS.
Don Quixote tilted at the sails of windmills becuse he - and only he - saw them as giants. Alas, however, they remained the sails of windmills
"This didn't happen towards the Irish when the IRA was bombing the hell out of this country and it shouldn't be happening now with Muslims. "
This is yet more confused and confusing rhetoric.
Why do people desperately attempt to liken the 'IRA' to ISIS? The only common demonitator is the fact that both are/were terrorist organisations.
The IRA did NOT want to conquer every country in the entire world and slaughter the indigenous population of each, nor enslave them, nor convert them by force to Catholicism so that the the entire Globe became entirely Catholic under the POPE.
The IRA were indeed universally condemned by decent, peace-loving ordinary people - just as ISIS are being condemned right now - BUT, not ONE RIGHT-MINDED person condemned the entire IRISH race for the terrorist actions of a few - just as no RIGHT-MINDED person is condemning the entire MUSLIM population.
In addition - The IRA did HAVE some reason to be 'disgruntled' - though their terrorism was deplorable and rightfully condemned - but ISLAMIC TERRORISTS have NO SUCH ARGUMENTS or GROUNDS.
"If a Muslim commits what is seen as a crime against the state then lets deal with that person effectively and efficiently but lets stop making it newspaper headlines and BB serious debate headlines. Lets stop continuing these otherwise small stories with hate spitting venom that only gives out the same tedious message."
"Let's stop making it newspaper headlines and BB Serious Debate headlines"?????
This view is perhaps one of the most worrying I have read on here.
We are AT WAR. A war declared upon humanity by the some of the most insane, barbaric, merciless, cruel and inhuman beasts that we have ever witnessed.
We have secreted in our country, in our communities, unknown numbers of 'Fifth Columnist' terrorists and their supporters -- TRAITORS, in simple terms.
In WARTIME, just as there is a great need for our government AND the media to caution the British Public to be diligent and to look out for traitors, there is also a great NEED for the public to be INFORMED when such TRAITORS are discovered.
WHY should this and other terrorist linked incidents by UK domiciled TRAITORS be kept from the public? It can only AID the terrorist cause and increase the very real danger to innocent British Citizens - peace-loving MUSLIMS included.
The problem is; that these terrorist-linked incidents are far more numerous than is being reported, so the UK public do not REALLY understand the gravity of the problem--
'Individual balloons floating around in the sky' - if you read some of my earlier posts.
But I would be greatly pleased if you would expound on just WHY these incidents should not be reported and just why we should not be free to discuss and debate them on TIBB?
Finally; if you SERIOUSLY consider that TRAITORS to this country are; "otherwise small stories" GOD help us.