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Old 04-02-2016, 11:45 AM #40
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Muslims are being portrayed to be the enemy and Cameron hasn’t held back when it comes to the stereotyping of British Muslim communities. Cameron and Theresa May have legitimized racism and propagated resentment and from where I’m sitting its starting to feel like the McCarthyism witch trials.

Even the West Midlands police were concerned enough to make an official complaint about the The Channel 4 Dispatches program, ‘ Muslims Undercover’ because they felt it was a green light to any xenophobic, neo-fascist, racist. Well there are lots of green lights and you only have to listen to the vile spitting venom from people who used to be otherwise unbothered, to see what is happening here.

Fortunately I’m not on my own in sensing that Islam is being criminalized and our concerns are, the more we do this, the more likely people will radicalise; the more we exploit these fears across our nation, the more likely fraction groups will go underground.

What surprises me more than anything else is this sudden mood swing towards OUR Christian nation. I mean, where the hell did all these Christians suddenly appear from.

We are not at war with Islam, we are at war with ISIS.
First of all Red - I NEVER misrepresent members posts, so please refrain from doing so with mine , because I NEVER said or even implied that we were at war with Islam

The subject of this thread is a traitor who left this country to join ISIS, and I stated:

"We are AT WAR. A war declared upon humanity by the some of the most insane, barbaric, merciless, cruel and inhuman beasts that we have ever witnessed."

Islam has not declared war on us or the rest of the world, only ISIS has done that, and given this fact, and the thread subject matter and context - I think it is irrefutably CRYSTAL CLEAR to any honest, rational and impartial reader, that I am referring to ISIS and Islamic terrorists and NOT ISLAM.

Secondly;

"Muslims are being portrayed to be the enemy and Cameron hasn’t held back when it comes to the stereotyping of British Muslim communities. Cameron and Theresa May have legitimized racism and propagated resentment and from where I’m sitting its starting to feel like the McCarthyism witch trials."


The above is just mere repetition of the statements which you made in your original post, and yet again, with NO corroborating evidence to substantiate your claims.

Just how is Cameron 'portraying Muslims as the enemy'?

Is this merely YOUR interpretation of Cameron's policies on Islamic Terrorism? Or has he actually stated definite anti-Muslim sentiments? And when you state that he 'stereotypes British Muslim Communities' - in what way? What has he actually SAID that makes you say this?

These are not 'leading' or 'loaded' questions, I genuinely do not recognize any validity in your claims based upon what I have witnessed Cameron say on this subject.

Similarly; how have "Cameron and Theresa May" "legitimized racism and propagated resentment"?

There will ALWAYS be unsavoury elements of society who will pounce with relish upon any opportunity presented by new laws or regulations - the Human Rights Act' is being constantly misused by opportunists for their own nefarious ends, whether it be career criminals suing the Police because they were bitten by a police dog whilst fleeing the scene of a crime they had just committed, or sinister banned Terrorist groups suing to have the ban overturned - and if racists see an opportunity to use any tougher new laws to help combat terrorism as an excuse to vent their offensive views, then that is not the fault of the government, and I do not for one moment believe that May or Cameron ae actually complicit in such acts.

Indeed, rather than repeal any new anti-terrorist laws because they may inadvertently encourage racists to be more vociferous, all that is needed is for the authorities to clamp down more harshly on such racists.

"Even the West Midlands police were concerned enough to make an official complaint about the The Channel 4 Dispatches program, ‘ Muslims Undercover’ because they felt it was a green light to any xenophobic, neo-fascist, racist. Well there are lots of green lights and you only have to listen to the vile spitting venom from people who used to be otherwise unbothered, to see what is happening here. "

There ARE, always HAVE been, and always WILL BE, TV programmes which are politically slanted by design - whether Documentaries, News, or even Dramas - and whether sympathetic to the Left Wing or Right Wing, or Pro- Immigrant lobby or anti-Immigrant lobby, etc etc. and the Channel 4 Dispatches program is sadly one of such, but for every one of this kind there is another which just as shamelessly and dishonestly is pro-Immigration and pro-Islam.

"Fortunately I’m not on my own in sensing that Islam is being criminalized and our concerns are, the more we do this, the more likely people will radicalise; the more we exploit these fears across our nation, the more likely fraction groups will go underground."

I'm sorry Red, but I will never agree that Islam is being 'criminaiised' because from my perspective only ISLAMIC CRIMINALS are being criminalised - ie; terrorists.

I do not understand what you mean by 'Fraction groups' but for too long in this country pro-Islamic terrorist support groups and Islamic Hate Preachers have been tolerated by our Government and allowed to spit their hate and bile on rostrums in our universities and other seats of learning, and we have allowed radical Islamics to flourish in our society under various guises from tax assisted 'Charity Organisations' to 'Islamic Schools' and it is THIS apathy which has allowed the radicalisation of our young people in unknown numbers, so ANY law which rights this wrong is LONG overdue and does not go far enough in my opinion.
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