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Originally Posted by kirklancaster
So is this you now posting a report by the TORY GOVERNMENT as factual corroboration to support your 'Vote To Remain IN' stance?
The very SAME TORY GOVERNMENT whom you have spent years despising?
The very SAME TORY GOVERNMENT whose every other 'statement you have hailed as 'lies' or 'spin'?
What is happening?
I mean, I am puzzled by the very fact that you IGNORE all the evidence of how our membership of the corrupt EU is HURTING the poor of this country, but you now express great sympathy for what MAY (or MAY NOT) be the plight of the more well off who have had the means - however gained - to be able to retire to a 'life in the sun'.
What is happening?
Some of the TORY party have a huge vested interest in keeping us in the EU, hence the frenetic campaign of hysterical 'fear mongering' over what MAY occur if we vote to leave their beloved EU - the EU which generates huge covert personal income for themselves and the corporations which keep them in power and in funds, and all at the expense of the British Taxpayers, many of whom are struggling to exist on inadequate wages.
42 years of huge multi-billion pound net deficits for belonging to an organisation which has delivered very little by return which actually justifies the cost of membership, and YET the Tories are hellbent on keeping us in.
OWEN JONES - the dahling of the Left Wing strongly advocates all on the Left to vote OUT.
THE SOCIALIST PARTY OF SCOTLAND and THE SOCIALIST PARTY OF ENGLAND AND WALES strongly advocate all those on the Left to vote OUT.
Editorial statement from the Socialist Party England and Wales and Scotland
"The referendum on 23 June is not just about the EU but is also an opportunity to pass verdict on Cameron and his rotten government.
An ‘out’ vote would strike a mortal blow at the government"
"It is wrong and a serious mistake for Jeremy Corbyn and Labour to be supporting an ‘in’ vote that could inadvertently lead to an escape for this Tory government on the ropes."
" Corbyn… and the GMB
"Jeremy Corbyn and others on the left were wrong to succumb under pressure from Labour’s right wing to the argument that the EU is advantageous for workers and so advocated a vote to stay in it. One of the consequences of that mistake is that his referendum campaigning will be improving the chances of a victory for Cameron and the continuation of Tory austerity."
"Also, the trade union leaders are mistaken in looking to provisions from a “social Europe” as a way to counter the anti-union and anti-worker attacks of a right-wing government like Cameron’s. A future UK government elected on the anti-austerity programme Corbyn stood on in the Labour leadership election would soon be confronted with the anti-working class character of the EU."
I do not agree with most of their reasons, but I applaud their passion and totally agree with their decision to vote OUT.
As to the fate of 'ex-pats' should we leave the EU - well, NO ONE KNOWS but I do not believe that they will be abandonded.
But here is where Cameron and pro-EU Tory Government are 'hoisting themselves on their own petards' because - and think clearly about this - Here we have a BRITISH PRIME MINISTER and his GOVERNMENT attempting to spread fear and panic among the British people to evince them to 'Vote to Remain' in the EU, and ALL that scaremongering is based squarely upon the UNCERTAINTIES of what MAY or MAY NOT happen if we leave.
SHOULD NOT THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER AND HIS GOVERNMENT HAVE LONG BEEN BUSY ANALYSING THE EFFECTS OF A BREXIT, AND HAVE LONG BEEN CALCULATING WHICH COURSE OF ACTION THEY SHOULD TAKE ON ALL SUCH MATTERS AS EX-PATS etc. IN THE EVENT OF US LEAVING THE EU?
SHOULD A BRITISH PRIME MINISTER REALLY BE SO CLUELESS AND HYSTERICALLY ALARMED BY THE EFFECTS OF A BREXIT WHEN THAT HAS BEEN A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY FOR YEARS?
I have supported Cameron and a lot of his policies in the past and still do - but on this ALL CRUCIAL matter, he is being nefarious, deceitful, alarmist, and guilty of the most atrocious lies and scaremongering - all in the interest of self and the corporate elititists.
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I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't again...
I have taken the report on it's merits regardless of where it came from, isn't that a positive that I didn't dismiss it without consideration?
Mind you the hokey cokey conservatives aren't sure themselves which leg to put in are they so nobody can be sure where they stand atm.
My initial concern is WTD, if that is isolated and protected prior to the vote I'm happy.
I'm not willing to be bamboozled with spin relating to immigration which distracted so many during the GE.