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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed
Cameron will be blamed for bringing this about in the first place. I believe he's damned if we do and damned if we don't. The conservative party are tearing themselves apart and are now so viscerally divided that its become an open and very public warfare. The awkwardness is not going to go away any time soon.
I know a good few conservatives who are considering the out vote atm. The only thing that's stopping them (the ones I know) is this bandwaggon of petty nationalists and xenophobics that are riding at the front of the 'OUT' chariot. I had a very interesting conversation with a conservative friend of mine regarding what he thought about the present party divide and he told me that a lot of conservative MP's don't sit comfortably with this present government and blame Cameron's leadership for moving further and further away from what conservatism stands for. He said its likely the 'blue' parliamentary Brexit supporters just want to contribute to Cameron's and Osbornes downfall and squash this present leadership, because if they wait until the next election, the conservatives won't get in. Installing a new Tory PM would at least give the conservative party a fighting chance.
I say, if politicians within Cameron's own party are prepared to take such desperate measures to repair what's left of the conservative party, then things must be bad. I suspect that what we are seeing here is a modern version of the Roman senators conspiracy with Julius Ceasor.
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That is a fascinating post and I do find some of my Conservative friends feeling exactly as you say in the post above.
However at my end most of my Conservative friends feel this has now become the real test for Cameron.
Few believe he can stay on as PM if the vote is to leave but by the same token they think he will be stronger after an 'in' result.
In all honesty however, it will be hard for the Conservatives not to be at the very least the party with the most seats after the 2020 election.
Not because they deserve to be but because of pure and simple arithmetic.
Labour will not turn around the Scottish losses within 5 years only,there will not be any mighty surge to bring about a landslide win for anyone now,I think anyway.
Also,there are boundary changes to come in likely 2018, these will reduce the number of MPs to 600 from 650 and will favour the Conservatives more,in a further 20 seats.
Not the picture I like to think of at all but while I see massive problems for the Conservatives due to this EU issue,they will not be tearing themselves to pieces once an election looms.
So even with the wrangling, the best result for anti Conservatives I can see at this moment in time for 2020,is that they get no overall majority again and then are forced to be far more accountable with totally heartless and unjust policy making thrown out.
Which is why I really believe they will be extra careful now as to who they elect as leader after Cameron with possibly all the leading favourites at present being rejected in the end.