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Old 04-04-2016, 11:20 PM #2
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Originally Posted by Marsh. View Post
The show is sh*te with or without it.

It peaked in those years because of the great mix of contestants. Not because of Louis Walsh squabbling.

The entire format is stale as sh*t.

No one's pretending it's something it's not. But let's not pretend Louis Walsh holds any worth in the entertainment stakes.
It's both, I'd say last year's series had one of the greatest mixes of contestants ever, as did Sam Bailey's year...but they didn't do as well as the golden era?

Whether people want to admit it or not, or even know it themselves, they tuned in for the judge dramas and feuds, the fake fights, the ~deadlock~ sagas etc etc. Yes of course the contestants are important but the judges are just as much too

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XFactor 2010 acts was TV Gold tbh. I think XF is all about the acts rather than the judges.
seriously? X Factor has always since like S4 been about the judges. The narrative in the press about who's going to be on the panel drones on for months every year, they have big, flashy introductions, there's manufactured drama surrounding them every series.

X Factor masquerades as a talent contest but it's an entirely entertainment driven primetime programme. Yes the talent pool is important but the judges are the stars of the show, especially in the eyes of the producers

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That was when Dannii was on the show lol
okay that's a fair point, but I still don't think objectively speaking Dannii herself brings much drama or attention to the show. Louis' deadlock dilemmas are incredible and provided press attention for days on end, Simon's just Simon, Cheryl as dull as I find her does or did get loads of press coverage and also had feuds with a few acts like Wagner/Raign...but Dannii? Not really, she was just the levelheaded, credible judge in amongst all the crap, which is fine, but bringing her back on her own? What's the point?
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