[Livia]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I mean don't get me wrong, I do feel like anti-semitism is more aligned to the far-right than those on the far-left, however it is one element of racism that seems to have at least a tiny amount of backing on the left whereas the left tends to reject every other form of racism. I'd find it really interesting if you did a longer post on what you think about the whole Israel scenario too like Kizzy said, with your knowledge & experiences it would be really insightful to read.

Don't think Kizzy would ever say anything positive to me or about me. I'll put something together Josh.

Originally Posted by lostalex

To be fair, there is a bias among jews all over the world towards Israel. especially jews in North America.

Probably because of right to return and family pressure to visit "the homeland". there is no doubt Livia that jews all over the world, no matter how far removed from Israel itself, just being jews they do feel a loyalty. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, but it's silly to deny it exists.

Just like most blacks feel a loyalty to Africa even if they've never been there and have no desire to ever live there, they still have an automatic bias towards what is perceived as "the homeland".

Israel is our spiritual and cultural home. The Israel talked about in the Bible, not the state set up in the forties. If Britain and the US had not instigated the "State of Israel", Jews would still have gone there after the Holocaust, no one could have stopped them.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The problem is probably that people sweepingly consider any criticism of Israel to be anti-Semitism, when it is not.

Sweepingly? Anti-Semitism is stabbing and shooting people just because they are Jews, it's blowing up synagogues and attacking worshippers simply because they are Jews. I don't support the vast majority of what the Israeli government do... however, there is no black and white answer regarding Israel and Palestine. You have to view it from both sides, it's not a Good/Bad question.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What a reductive view, hey,some think war and genocide are wrong...let's mock them till they change their minds :/

They claim to be against war and genocide and yet cosy up to some of the biggest despots in the known world. Seems a bit of an anomaly to me.