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The hypocrisy of the likes of Boris Johnson is unbelievable, for the out organisations had this president even indicated that the UK would be okay out of the EU as to securing other deals with other Nations including the USA,
They would be yelling from the rooftops, even the President of the USA thinks we could be better out of the EU.

They would have no problem with his stance in that scenario, as indeed although I am for in, I would not either.

The EU has been good for the UK as to security and working together on many issues that are considered global,things like working together on climate change issues too.
Its directives as to social policy which we eventually signed up to have helped the lowest pad and helped strongly as to health and safety and workers rights.
Not all perfect but most have been pretty good additions to the UK social structure.

Also a fact after all the decades of being in the EEC and then signing up too to the EU as it is now, the UK has remained the successful Nation it has been from the 80s onwards,working together when needed and being able to combat difficulties as to the recession and the unexpected and worst crisis for many a generation when the global financial crisis hit in 2007/8.

We are successful in the EU, that is the simple fact that needs to be taken on board, now really it is the out organisations who are calling for change, it is for them to guarantee the UK can hold that success it already has in the EU, if it leaves, not vice versa.
The UK should be able to be guaranteed before it makes any change on this scale for its future,that the out side has done all its homework, and knows for certain what can be in place after we leave.

Otherwise we take the UK down a road of uncertainty for possibly years, even to just get any new deal with the EU, never mind anywhere else..
Really, are the out expecting anyone to believe that likely years of uncertainty are not going to hit the UKs economy, stability and investment from other Nations
Of course it must, unless they have a blueprint they can present to voters with all the names of Nations and their leaders who are saying yes the UK can do great with us out of the EU.

So we are a successful Nation in the EU, have been since we joined and remain so,that is a fact.
Now the 'out' organisations being the ones who want to change all that, have to tell the voters all the facts they have, and any/the support from around the world for their position,and from any of the major organisations around the World from financial institutions to even the likes of NATO.
That is 'if' they have any of note at all.

They are the ones that have to remove the only thing that is evident in this campaign, which is that the only thing 'certain' about leaving is there is a likely long period of endless uncertainties as to the UKS future.

The EU has been good for the UK in that no matter what has been thrown at Europe, the rest of the world and the UK,in the EU the UK has been, is and remains now a successful Nation.
In light of what Obama has said and what other major World leaders have indicated too,it is the 'out' side who have to tell the voters the truth and not distort figures, as on the £350million poster which is misleading as has been said.

I repeat again, either they cannot say the UK will be as successful or better out of the EU because they have no other major Nation or institution to back up that argument.
Or they 'will not', which for me is more dangerous and likely means they indeed know too, that things will be a lot harder and less successful for the UK out than in and will not say so.

That is what is unfolding around the World from Countries leaders and all other institutions,that the UK will have a harder road.
Obama has stated clearly how he sees it and where his Nations priorities will lie, he is now backed by Hilary Clinton his likely successor.

As a friend to the UK he has laid it on the line which is far more than the 'out' organisations have done so far by only spouting anti EU rhetoric and selective statistics and figures,of which one has been stated as being misleading by a statistics office.

The ones calling for change, have to be the ones to prove things 'can and will' be sustained,they should really be able to say with substantiated evidence it will be bettered as to the UK remaining successful out.

We are successful in the EU, to change that for uncertainty and no evidence whatsoever of better success,well that needs very careful thought especially when there is no turning back once we vote to leave.
Even moreso if we now still voted to leave after the evidence of all the institutions and other Nations leaders advice on this issue as to how they hope to see the UKs place and status in the World.
To have dismissed all those Nations and organisations concerns and advice and then vote to leave would hardly lkely inspire cooperation from them afterwards.

Those who want the change then, have to be the ones to prove change is for the better otherwise in lack of that proof,the most dangerous thing to do with any Nation and all its generations of its citizens that need to be successful, is make that change which will only open doors to likely long periods of uncertainty across the board.
In the EU, we are successful, ending as I started almost,we have been from joining, we are still and are at present and that is far more likely to continue to be the case in my view, in the EU and not out of it.


(My post, if even read,will probably be dismissed as some of the old 'in' EU rhetoric that has been said over and over again,that does not bother me, as it has more facts and more evidence as to the position from other Nations leaders,The USA President being only the latest one,also the support of financial institutions and then even on security from NATO too.
It contains far more facts and backing up than anything at all thus far presented to the UK voters by the out organisations who demand detailed info and facts from the 'in' side while giving none at all of substantiated detail themselves as to their position for the vital future of the UK).