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Originally Posted by the truth
Fantasy land. the EU is bankrupt lol Thank goodness we walked our own path and kept the pound and kept our own monetary policy. if Greece , Italy , Portugal, Iceland, spain and even france had kept the franc their economies wouldn't be going down the toilet....this entire project is insane, its anti economics. all nations will fail in the eu bar Germany who control the monetary policy.
2 years is nothing compared to eternity, what you don't seem to understand is 1) were doing the eu a favour...2) the eu will collapse anyway 3) were fighting to stop ttip , the us wants one gigantic takeover , they cant do that
to individual countries 4) The majority of eu either bankrupt or in a dreadful economic state 5) unemployment across the eu is at all time record highs because of the EU
pls point me to any success stories inside the EU bar Germany and their next door neighbours Austria
then compare to the endless independent countries who control their own monetary policies, who are way stronger outside it....Switzerland, Norway, japan, Australia, new Zealand, Canada , America , south Africa, etc etc and no these nations do NOT want to join the EU as fully paid up members, propping up bankrupt nations, wasteful corrupt politicians, giving up their own laws and sovereignty
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Look, you and I are likely wasting our time this thread,I will never agree with you likely and you certainly are only able to rudely in my view get away with dismissing anything anyone who disagrees with you says.
For me with regret the fantasy land is the one that is 'out' because no one has single idea as to what will really happen.
Clearly you do not either.
You mention Norway and Switzerland, they both have to accept free movement of EU citizens.
By the way it is European Nations that can join the EU as full members, not Australia and New Zealand and the USA.
They are not in Europe.
You can dismiss 2 years as nothing but it is a long time for business and investment to see uncertainty on.
The one place there is no fantasy is in the EU, good or bad we know with greater certainty what we are likely to be doing in years to come and the past decades in the EU show we can be successful.
We are not fighting TTIP at all, TTIP may never even be agreed in this present form, it most certainly will have an almighty struggle to be ratified by the EU Nations that is for sure.
If we left the EU no way could we then even have a vote as to TTIP and the EU deal anyway.
So we are hardly fighting it.
There you are, more rubbish and nonsense for you to dismiss but as I have done it for you, there is really no need to respond with the fullest respect.
If you do, I will have to ignore you as you are just,sadly in my view,simply too rude to debate with anyway and rarely show any respect for others opposite positions and views on issues.