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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier
In your example it is only democracy if you don't consider the Scottish vote as a separate entity; it is "democracy" across the UK. As a separate consideration, 38% of Scots voted to leave vs a clear majority of 62% voting to stay, and yet Scotland is out anyway, which is a clear failure of democracy (for Scotland) just as having a Tory government is a failure for Scotland when a clear majority does not want one.
Taking Scotland as a separate entity, all your actually doing is demonstrating perfectly how being part of the UK represents the OPPOSITE of "good democracy" for Scotland. We vote, our desires are clear, we get stuck with the thing that we didn't want anyway. English decisions will demonstrably always over-ride Scottish desires. Scotland does not have democracy. The only way for Scotland to have democracy, as an individual nation, is to be separate from England.
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Absolutely right.
The UK is made up of 4 separate Nations, just because one has far more population should not diminish the voting power, status and rights of the others.
In this referendum and the PM has to take blame for not putting locks on how to make the result binding.
It should have been the separate wishes of the 4 Nations that was taken into account.
Otherwise what we have is a dictatorship over the other Nations of the UK where the larger populated one always rules supreme.
However the PM did not put any locks on the vote so this is where we are.
However yes England from its population voted to leave the EU.
Wales voted to leave the EU by 52.5% to 47.5%.
Northern Ireland voted 56% to 44% to remain in the EU and as you say Scotland voted 62% to 38% to remain also.
There was no majority of the Nations to leave but we are leaving only because of the voting strength of the population of England.
So Scotland has every right to feel democracy, 'true democracy that is', as to size not being the main factor but equality of status,, has been extremely ill served.