[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They voted in 2014 to remain a part of the UK partly also because they also were told that was the best way they could also protect their EU membership.

Since that is not the case now,that referendum is made void by the false guarantee.

David Cameron never expected to hold a EU referendum,never over the previous 2 years before the election did it look like any party could get an overall majority in May of 2015 and that was the case right until polling day.

No referendum was expected, David Cameron stipulated that he would only hold an 'in' 'out' referendum on the EU, IF the Conservatives got an overall majority.

The Scots were played again and now their concerns,vote and decision on the EU referendum should be dismissed only because of the might of England.
So a promise to the Scots can be broken as long as it is England that gets all its own way.

No way, that is not democracy,not in my book.

Maybe I see this differently because I am English by birth and lived in the West Midlands until I was 18,I am also of full Irish ancestry on my Mother's side and full Scottish ancestry on my Father's.

So what is now being said as to any UK wide referendum,immaterial of how the Nations vote,if it is different from the majority of England, and just because England is higher populated, they always have to accept losing.
Despite any previous promises or guarantees.

That then makes any UK wide referendum on anything pointless in my book.

With respect Joey - In the time that I have been a forum member, I have seen you crusading for many causes and railing against others, but DEMOCRACY and Scotland being part of the United Kingdom, has not been one of them - until the result of the DEMOCRATIC result of the 'UK EU Referendum' went against your personal preferrance.

As BOTS rightly says - Scotland voted to remain in the UK and all this bally-hoo now is laughable.

Wasn't it the United Kingdom and not Scotland who was accepted into the EU by the EU? and did not Scotland ENTER the EU as PART of The United Kingdom, and not in her own right as a Country?

Then it is only right and fitting that Scotland leave the EU as part of The United Kingdom'.

Bleating now about 'Election' being 'Undemocratic' because.... is just ludicrous and tiresome.

The UK has a job to do now that we are finally free of the corrupt failed and failing EU, and this complaining is draining and deflective.

If Scotland REALLY do want to leave the UK, then let them hold a referendum, and if the result is to part from us, then they should be allowed to part.

If Scotland then want to join the EU, then that is a matter for Sturgeon and Salmond and any other 'fishy sounding' Scottish politicians.

Our Democracy is not perfect, but there is nothing better to replace it, and every free country in the world has followed our lead.