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Originally Posted by joeysteele
It seems the establishment of 'only' England can promise Scotland anything to make it fall in line but then when it suits England,any promise can be betrayed.
That is a great advert for England I am sure, its word means nothing.
Scotland did join the EU as part of the UK, that is the point, Scotland still wants to be in the EU and voted heavily to be so.
It was promised if it stayed in the UK in 2014, that its EU position would be secure.
Now let us imagine the outcry here in this scenario, had Scotland promised they will stay in the UK on that promise,then we had the EU referendum and say the UK had voted to stay but Scotland then again called for an Independence vote.
The tune would change massively and from the English govt particularly the Scots govt would rightly be getting hammered left right and centre.
Clearly England's word is meaningless and its promises from its govt worthless, that is really the only point here.
I am absolutely fed up of English MPs and some of England's citizenship riding through any concerns and the will of the other Nations of the UK.
The point here is Nicola sturgeon has to do all she can to keep Scotland in the EU, from her much larger mandate to do so, than any mandate the UK govt has.
It stuns me that all we are hearing from Westminster is the overall result and totally discounting that 2 Nations, 50% of the Countries in the UK,voted to remain by double figure majorities.
I say again,UK wide referenda are pointless if it all only has to go England's way no matter what the other Nations say.
If I lived in Scotland and had a vote, I'd support Nicola's efforts here and I would vote for independence too now after so many broken promises to Scotland,it being taken for granted and its will ignored for decades.
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But wasn't the SNP's campaign run very largely on the premise that Scotland could live off North Sea Oil? The oil prices have now tanked so how would an independent Scotland finance itself? You are shouting up for a cause that just doesn't have any substance in the current climate. Even Sturgeon knows this is why she is couching her language in such a cagey way and isn't screaming for an immediate referendum.
I find your bitterness over the referendum a bit sad Joey. I hope you can find peace with it over time. Part of being in a democracy is accepting that the will of the people doesn't always go your way. But we are all very lucky to live in a democracy where we can express our views and have a say. China isn't even allowed to read the internet outside of it's own country.