Thread: Ziggy: Aww Ziggy!!
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:15 AM #35
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I felt sorry for him last night when he was crying in the bedroom, did anyone else? I think he'd realised what he'd done and he felt guilty for speaking to Chanelle like that before she left.
If it had been Ziggy screaming at the top of his lungs,and throwing sentences like "You're a *ahem*" he would have been crucified! Chanelle completely lost it. I'll never know what was going through Ziggys' mind when he cried, but I can only imagine it was the feeling of regret,for ever getting with her. I know they had their problems, but Chanelles' reaction was shocking.
Yes, I would agree that if someone started screaming at the top of their lungs for no reason would have been crucified...but then again there was reason.

Chanelle isn't the most articulate of the bunch. She couldn't calmly tell Ziggy and the rest of the housemates exactly what Ziggy had been saying between the two of them. Everytime they were alone Ziggy would question their relationship, trying to say things to Chanelle that would make her dump him so as he would not look to be the bad guy in dumping her but as we've all seen it's gone horribly wrong.

He was a decent guy, but in trying to be Mr Nice and being aware of having to set a good image he made everything just so much worse for both himself and Chanelle.

Does anyone remember their first break up? Instead of Ziggy just being a man and finishing it with some dignity, he tried to turn it on Chanelle saying he was doing it for her good. Now I would have just been happy if he'd have just been honest and said he just didn't want the relationship to go further, but to say the motive is something else is deceitful and just wrong.

The rest of the time in the house, he would voice the age-old clichés of "Oh, I can't win either way" and "I'm being made to look like the bad guy" and words to that effect to get sympathy for him as of course, other housemates will not say anything to upset the guy (not to his face anyway) like "Well, we could see it wasn't going anywhere, and if you felt that bad, you shouldn't have continued with it".

He's very aware of the camera. Just after Chanelle left, he left his "message of regret", but if you believe in Psychology studies behind micro-body language, you can tell from his eyes he wasn't being truthful about being sad she's gone. I mean, on the day she was supposed to have left and he was in the garden, he was giving away some rather chuffed smiles at the fact that he was finally free.

I dunno, I guess it's like the Charley thing that when you know someone's a bitch (or a liar in Zigs case) you just notice more of a certains behaviour as being bitchy (or being deceitful) that I otherwise would have.

Thing is, the guys a people pleaser. That's why he's in the house to get back some of his lost fame. He started off well, but if he would have just been less of a people pleaser and did what was morally right, then most people would have brushed his crumbled relationship as "just one of those things in life" rather than the "Ziggy the love rat" some tabloids and painting him out to be.
I wouldn't expect, nor want him to feel sad Chanelle left, afterall their relationship somewhat ruined their BB experience. It was rocky between them, and Ziggy was having trouble coping, so wanted to cool it..there shouldn't be anything wrong with that. He didn't use her, things just went pear shaped for the pair of them.They both had jealousy issues, Ziggy was wary of Chanelle around the guys,and Chanelle was wary of Ziggy around the girls.They imposed their issues on eachother..that,coupled with the strains of being in the BB house, it was destined to fail. But blame shouldn't be placed on just one person.

And in regard to a few peeps saying "If Ziggy was a 'real' man, he would have left the BB house,instead of Chanelle" Maybe he wasn't as ready to throw his dream away over a failed relationship.
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