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Originally Posted by halfacrown
The mania for being a victim and giving other human beings titles like 'Bigot', 'Misogynist' etc - which reduce the accused to the status of non-person - has now entered the BB house. As it happens I don't agree with Biggins' comments about bi people., but I'm old enough to understand that he grew up in a world where the visibility of gay people was negligible . If gay people were mentioned at all, it was seen as a medical or criminal condition. The whole gay movement has been built on visibility and the strength to come out of the closet. It was a physical battle, literally a daily battle against the risk of black eyes , broken ribs or worse: much worse. Biggins comes from the time where many gay people pretended to be bi as it was seen as more 'acceptable' and straight people often believed that bi people would simply straighten themselves out. Thirty years or more ago the LGBT battle lines were drawn and people were upfront and blunt: they simply did not have a fear of names or opinions. The world has gone mad, with adults no longer able to cope with different opinions or words, or stand up to fight and win an argument. Any bi people, offended or not, should bow down to the Biggins of this world. Without their struggle, they would simply not be able to go about their business or enjoy the state of being constantly offended.
As for causing offence, was it not a couple of weeks ago that Chanel 5 showed a man sucking on a woman's nipple and the same women appearing to get fingered under the bed sheets? It didn't offend me but I'm sure plenty of people would be offended by it. The right to offend is absolutely crucial to the principal of Free Speech.
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Thank you for this. This puts Biggins comments very clearly in context, and highlights the reason for generational differences. Although Biggins did cause offence to some, your post outlines the probable reasons behind this, as well as encouraging people to reconsider his intentions. If offence is not meant, it is easier to dismiss a comment, and I am sure Biggins would willingly apologise if he was told that he has caused offence.
What I find intolerable is when certain people on here group together to take part in an offensive and insulting onslaught of abuse directed at another forum member, and even worse, to continue to do so even after they have been clearly told they are causing offence.
You have stated the other side of the debate in a civil and informative way, which enables people to look at another side of the debate.