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Originally Posted by Ninastar

Ughh this is so complicated for me because in general the answer is no.

But its obvious there is a problem arising and we need to do something about it. Yes 'ISIS' arent 'true muslims' but we cannot deny that this is what they claim to be and they are acting on what they believe makes them a 'true muslim'...

What I don't like about Islam, is the way how they (and yes, other religions too) treat women. I just don't think I'll ever understand how its okay for a woman to wear something that completely covers her whole entire body in (sometimes) 40+ degree heat. I don't think its right at all. I know women have the choice to wear it, but tbh, I feel like there is a lot of pressure for women to wear it.

I love headscarves, I love the shawls and the dresses etc that a lot of women wear, I think they are absolutely beautiful. But when you have to walk 3 steps behind your man and you can only show your eyes in public... now that upsets me and it really annoys me too.

I remember going to Disneyworld in Florida (it was only about 30 degrees then, but still) and I saw a muslim family where there was one teenage girl and her two younger brothers. She had the full outfit on, whilst her brothers were running around in shorts and and a t-shirt...

I understand that a lot of muslims think that our women don't wear enough clothes (I dont blame them tbh) but to go to that extreme just makes me feel a bit sick.

Yes, I know other religions treat women like crap too, but this one seems to take the lead.

Great post!

The part in bold leaves a pit in my stomach. It's just horrible.

Personally, I don't believe in telling other cultures how they should lead their lives as I'm very anti-ethnocentric... but I have an issue when one's spirituality starts to impinge on other people's rights to lead their own lives. Therefore, I don't follow a religion as I don't believe in indoctrinating others. My spiritual philosophy centers on the individual, not the group.

I don't feel religions should be politicized in the manner that they generally are now. Christianity is just as bad as Islam as the truth's post mentioned.

Still, I have a hard time judging Islam on the whole for this reason. It's like when the government raided the FLDS in Texas. I agreed with it only because it is a brainwashing splinter religion built around raping women against their will and gaming the tax and welfare system.

For every radical Muslim, there are many peaceful and non-politically motivated parishioners who can coexistence peacefully. When we blame an entire religion for most of the problems in the world we are encouraging it's radicalization via counter-coercive forces, if not by faith, then by culture.

Originally Posted by the truth

But most wars are still fought to make obscene profits for the elite 0.1% Divide and conquer has been going on a thousand years and were still pointing the finger at each other instead of these at the very top of the pyramid.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

How can any religion be peaceful when its aims are to convert 'heathens' to it. If it were peaceful, it would have no designs on expansionism.

While it can be said that the majority in a religion are peaceful, that means squat when that religion encompasses millions of people, because the simple fact is, many, many followers of that religion want to convert the heathens by any means, and their religion having expansionist aims freely condones that behavior.

In this day and age it is ridiculous that any religion should be allowed to freely practice conversion. Remove that from them, and nutters have no longer any pretext to attach violence to religion.

A thousand times this in the bold. I don't necessarily agree with placing restrictions on religious conversion (it wouldn't be a religion anymore, it would be like the local HOA or a God fanclub ).

No religion can be the moniker of peace it often claims to be as long as a priority on expansionism is involved.