[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by jaxie

You have no way of knowing if the people carrying out the assaults even voted in the referendum at all!

You say it's in England the bulk of these crimes are reported, how can you know that for sure? Do you have access to the details or statistics of those kinds of crimes reported in the other countries of the union?

Since the referendum there has actually an effort to urge people to report hate, so it's very hard to say if the rise in reports is a rise in the crime, or a rise in the reporting of the crime and a rise in awareness.

We should always be concerned about any hate crime but trying to make it an issue of Brexit is probably fairly naive. There are always people in every society with those views.

Do I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill? Yes I hope so.

I have previously posted long, comprehensive posts answering these types of allegations - as have others - and here we are again, dancing the same dance with the same partners.

I could pick up the phone RIGHT NOW and fictitiously report that on my way back from the local shops, I was jostled, spat upon, and called racist names by two white English men, and THAT call is LOGGED.

The police only follow up in the most EXTREME cases - where injury from violence has been suffered - but even if anyone from the police DID come out to' follow up' my report - WHAT THE FECK can they do to ascertain that my report is truthful?

I tell them a story, cannot identify the 'perpetrators' - who are long gone anyway - and it is just one more 'Hate Crime' on the records.

It's funny how the FACTS and STATISTICS which I have often reproduced in my posts to corroborate what I am saying - the EU Referendum one's included - have been decried and denied, yet a quite MEANINGLESS set of 'statistics' which are the result of highly questionable 'Telephone' report lines, are waved aloft as if they were IRREFUTABLE proof.