[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...my post Kirk was not referencing your general stance on Trump at all in any way as I have no idea what that is... but that this videoed conversation aside, Trump hasn't showed any positive balance in his character/any admirable qualities whatsoever in the views that he has on anything...most of what he says is very worrying....but I do think it's very much something to comment on and be worried further about ..(as is Hilary on her past and present...)...he wasn't discussing females in any kind of appreciative way that could be perceived as 'boyz banter'....he specifically stated that he just started kissing females, he didn't even wait, I think were his exact words..because when you're a star, you can do that/they let you do that/you can do anything you want/you can grab them by the ....(I won't use his terminology...)... that's not banter, that's extremely worrying that, he feel it's ok for those to be his actions with females because he's a 'star'...I wonder if he would think it was ok for other males to feel that they could kiss or grab his daughter without waiting for her consent to do so...because it's basically sexual assault...and that's a specific character of a particular person and not typical in any way of guys or 'guy conversations'...

Oh I'm not 'taking you to task' or taking any umbrage Ammi - please believe me upon that - I was trying to explain a post which I thought you had misinterpreted.

I totally agree with you that just 'kissing' females without invite or permission, is 'sexual assault' - in OUR normal world, but not in Trump's very different world.

I truly think that Trump - driven by an ego stoked up by Bush - was boasting, but if he was not, then all these women that he 'kissed' without permission MUST have had no objection 'after the fact', otherwise we all would have been treated to decades of 'multi-million pound' lawsuits against Trump for 'Sexual Assault', from hundreds of outraged women.

Either that, or these women ARE the type of which I wrote about, and were all willing to allow Trump to abuse them without taking offence because it suited their agenda.

You allude as to what my stance is on Trump, and I will admit, that my detestation of Clinton is so great, that at the onset of this 'Race For The White House', I preferred Trump.

I did so, because, I liked his 'aura' as a TV star, and somewhat grudgingly admired his ability to 'play' the 'corporate money game' and remain a billionaire despite being bankrupt several times - or some of his various companies were bankrupt, rather. This is how the super-rich are able to place themselves in a 'speculate and win/win, speculate and lose/win' position - because the system is designed to enable them to do just that.

Only poor people suffer if they fail at the fiscal game.

As time as elapsed though, I have seen Trump for what he is, and have lost any admiration I once held for him - both on a personal and professional level.

That said, I am still not moved to ever support Hilary Clinton, so I really do not care who wins the Presidency.

I hope that this clears this up Ammi, I love and respect you too much to ever let any difference of opinion affect our friendship - let alone any misinterpretation by either of us.