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Old 14-11-2016, 11:45 AM #44
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
To be honest, I think Russell Brand in his "trews" on it actually sums it up in a very balanced way, and the only really reasonable way to look at any of it without pretending that Donald Trump, "that guy off the American Apprentice", being the president of the United States isn't just ****ing barmy.

Anyway, for those who haven't seen it, he basically talks about how something like this happening was inevitable. That Trump now BEING president isn't surprising, shocking, or the start of some massive pile of problems... it is the inevitable outcome of the last few decades of politics. It's not a "new" problem, it's simply the same problem that has been festering away for years, suddenly being shoved into the light of day for all to see.

Clinton would have been a disaster. Trump will probably be a disaster. Pretend otherwise all you want - the simple truth is, that the real absolute ****ing disaster is that we've reached the point where these two were ever candidates at all. The result of a completely broken system that doesn't really work for anyone any more. The Clintons have been a large part of that system. Pretending that DONALD TRUMP is the man up to the task of fixing that system is utterly insane... he isn't and he won't, he may well break it further in trying. The only real positive here is that (again, as Brand says) it is surely no longer possible to ignore or deny the fact that politics, across the entire world really, has become an absolute shambles... and THAT might finally set us on the path to doing something about it, within the NEXT few decades. With new, hopeful faces at the front.

..I agree thought that it's a build up of many things and a thing that something has to give ..I mean I know that many think 'PC' and a result of not being able to express etc and that could be contributory but it's not the 'society problem' because it isn't just one problem, it's that problems and issues haven't been addressed by governments so they lead to more issues and more issues and more issues and etc...and so the result of these collective things...and Youtubers like this one for me are so contributory as well because things are so much taken on 'face value' I think so what's looked at mostly is the behaviour in the vid and that it's an 'anti Trump' person..so anti Trump people are pretty awful and hostile/violent etc...(well I'm sue some are/as are some Trumpeteers because that's individual grim people in spite of political leanings not because of...but what he's contributing and inflaming with his vids is intolerance.../the very thing he seems to find not ok.../you just can't make this stuff up really and it is I think very much contributing to some negativity in society as well...
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