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Originally Posted by jaxie
To be fair though Joey, as another Scot said on last week's question time, Scotland already voted to stay in the UK, the EU vote they voted as part of the UK. Therefore they have to respect the result theUK gave. It's not a separate vote.
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Sorry but I have to disagree.
At the time the independence referendum was put in place and duly held in 2014, a referendum on the EU looked a very distant prospect indeed as to the UK.
Only David Cameron had proposed a likely one and that was conditional on him getting an overall majority.
All through the last parliament,and even right to polling day,no main party looked to be in line for anything like an overall majority and were expected to fall well short of one too.
In the independence referendum,
the Scots were told their best way to stay in the EU was to remain part of the UK, that was said since Alex Salmond still proposed Scotland remaining in the EU after independence.
Nicola Sturgeon to her credit, has always stated any major change could lead to her wanting to hold a new independence referendum.
The broken pledge of Scotland remaining in the EU by voting to stay in the UK is broken now.
Scotland still voted to remain and solidly and had I held this referendum myself, I would have insisted 3 of the 4 UK nations would have to support either staying or leaving for that referendum to be binding.
That was not put in place,however the Scots still voted by the largest majority of percentage of their electorate to remain in the EU,no matter the fact that English much larger electorate and votes, by those much larger numbers were able to bring about an overall UK leave vote.
It does not alter the fact, this is a major change from the time of the original independence referendum in Scotland and the broken guarantees.
Had no party won an overall majority in the election of 2015, there would have probably been no referendum on the EU.
So in light of that change and no assurances to Nicola Sturgeon and the Scots from this govt; then she has every right and in fact the duty to explore all means to Scotland remaining in the EU and if that means leaving the UK, then if she has the support of Scots for that, to go for it again.
Also, since we are now getting suddenly in this thread tiny examples of not all Scots voting to remain.
Let analysis be done as to the areas of England that also voted the opposite way to leave this time then too.
Of which there is a good numbered 47% of all the people who voted in England as opposed to only 38% in Scotland.
If suddenly the minority, which is in Scotland the vast minority as to leave voters),should be now considered as the opening post appears to infer.
Both sides of the argument need to be balanced, not just one.