You see, and I hate to be a fence-sitter, but both of you are right because a forum doesn't have a single purpose. Some people like serious chat, some people like more chatty convos.
We'll create a seperate forum for the banter and games, and the moderators can also split threads in two which go off-topic. That's the best we can do.
But let's not start insulting each other, yeah?
Hooly vs Andy - maybe we should settle this with a celebrity boxing match or something.