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Old 26-05-2017, 01:52 PM #8
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There were things in this speech that i agree with however they were things that everyone will agree with.

Now what i disagree with about his speech are firstly -
"The war on terror is'nt working"
well it is working.ISIS are being diminished in Iraq and if we weren't there they'd be much bigger and in control of much more territory.
We can't just let them get on with it.
Yes our interventions in Iraq and Lybia are fueling the narrative however that narrative would still be there had we not gone in.Just possibly under another banner.It is ingrained in deep rooted religious and cultural ideas.These are tribal ideological anti western value religious maniacs.They would still be doing this stuff!
He'd pull our airforce out leaving the Iraqi army screwed and we'd still be getting attacked!

What i also disagree with is that there was absolutely no mention of Islamism.He mentioned that our past interventions are fuelling this fair enough but no specific mention of the ideology behind the whole thing.This is an Islamic problem but he won't say it.He needs to admit this or it looks as though he's just blaming the west.
Islamism IS the root cause.
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