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Originally Posted by Jian Yang

Yes he did, he had as much personality as Isabelle anyway. I mean i like Isabelle now, but i didn't during that task, and her line 'are tired cos you've been running around my head all day Kieran' was woeful, or do you think that swung it for Lotan? Of course it didn't, Lotan was against Sam the second he opened his mouth. And him saying he fancied Ellie made Lotan's mind up for him, no way was Lotan having a bloke coming in and taking his puppy doll away from him. He uses Ellie, he doesn't fancy her, but a ego like Lotan's won't let just a smidge of attention being taking away from him.

She did, and maybe still does want Kieran, but i admire her for sticking to her guns and basically saying 'oh well, f you then'. If she was that desperate surly she would have tried to join the clique and suck up to them? Even more so now the bitter Bex's has gone.

Also Lotan's tactic change with Isabelle was classic stuff. See how he adjusted his stance with her in the bedroom? Very, very manipulative behaviour. He completely flip flopped when he realised she wasn't going to back down so he went for the 'nice guy' approach with her. 'im going to tell them not to have a go at you', 'that will never happen again, people won't surround you again in here on my watch' etc etc etc.....This was a CLASSIC control move on his part. He was trying to make himself look like a all in power hero to Isabelle, a protector if you will. Lotan is a very dangerous man.

Another excellent post.