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Personally I think having a member like raph in there has screwed up the forum a bit as he is more in the forums mindset and some people dont want to be led like sheep and forced into supporting someone just because hes home grown. If I was in there I would have my critics (lots of) and supporters, but the divisiveness of supporters v critics causes barnies. Personally I feel he has let the side down but thats just me.