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Originally Posted by Brillopad
Where exactly is the social and economic issue. All those living here have access to free education, free health care and free benefits (where needed) - everyone is equal in that respect.
Those from immigrant families have much more opportunities (especially 2nd/3rd generations) than they would likely have had if born into the countries their parents/grandparents came from. Many do do well. For those that don't there has to be an element of self-responsibility. You can't just keep blaming everything on us - it's a cop-out.
If you want to keep harping on about skin colour - I would like to know how many white gangs there are in comparison to non-white gangs. I think it is obvious there are a lot less white gangs - so how does that make gangs culturally English. That makes no sense.
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You’ve clearly never lived in London. White gangs around London tend to be well organized units that earn themselves a lot of money. In Central and East London the white gangs (gangsters) are notorious. These aren’t the teenagers that get out of hand on a Saturday night, they are organized crime syndicates that provide drugs, finances and sort out and rid people of stolen goods and credit card fraud and its been going on for decades.
Remember the Cray twins? Well they were small fry compared to Eddie Richardsons mob. Gangland rivalry amongst London whites has been going on since before our grannies were born and its still going on today with people like Curtis ‘cocky’ Warren who’s run multi £million cannabis smuggling operations. What about the feared Adams family (Terry the Godfather Adams) or Scull cracker Wheatley who earned his nick from pistol whipping his victims round the head. Dave Courtney’s gang is still going strong. I’ve met Courtney on the club scene in London. He comes in flanked by bodyguards built like brick ****houses.
White gangs in London are organized crime
gangsters and a lot more lethal than your average teenage gang. Though they do pull in the small fry gangs to do their dirty work.
And then of course we have the massive football fan gangs who are white.
Edited to add the notorious white gypsy gangs.