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Old 09-09-2017, 09:49 PM #11
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Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
I did read it. When did I say I didn't? More of the usual hysterical assumptions from you in a desperate attempt to undermine me.

The opinions of minories are still only opinions, not fact. And even if some employers are hesitant to employ Muslims it would be very convenient to lay the blame solely at the feet of the employer as the religion has so many codes of behaviour and dress. I would imagine not many employers would be too keen to have women turning up for work in a burkha for instance or workers requiring several paid prayer breaks throughout the day and a room to use as a prayer room.

I can't see many Muslim employers choosing a non-Muslim over a Muslim if equally qualified. Employers often state they want someone who will fit it. Employees also expect to have to adhere to certain dress codes. It's called the real world.
I don't think you did read it. I think you saw the headline and went from there.

You really seem to struggle to differentiate between facts and opinions unless it's signposted to you don't you? The article that you pretended to read is what's called an 'Opinion Piece' everything presented within it was an opinion HOWEVER the writer used facts and figures to qualify their opinion and back up their thoughts. She didn't say 'this is my opinion and it is FACT!' She essentially said 'This is my opinion and here are the statistics to back it up'. You really need to learn the difference between a fact and opinion and you need to learn to spot it, people shouldn't have to signpost the fact that their opinions are actually opinions for your benefit. You should be able to tell instantly.

If an employer chose not to employ someone who was suited for the role because of their religion, that's called discrimination. Do I need to explain what that is to you too?

You....You don't have much experience of interacting with Muslims in a work place, do you? (or in general, I bet). I've worked with plenty in my time, I've hired a few. I do the Rotas at my current job and the only thing I've ever been asked is if they can swap their days off for Eid or, failing that, if they can use their holiday days for it which is no different to anyone of any religion asking for a day off for their holidays. I think you think that Burkhas are really common too but they aren't. If a muslim woman chooses to wear a scarf (there's two currently at my store and only one of them does) then they'll more often than not opt to wear a Hijab.

I've never worked with anyone who has paid prayer breaks of any religion, never mind having a special prayer room to do it in. I think this is just another irrational argument to try to justify what is discrimination against Muslims in the work place.

If a Muslim employer refused to employ people because they weren't muslim then that would be discrimination too and an unlikely hypothetical situation does not justify you basically saying that discriminating against Muslims in the work place is okay.

I'd advise you try to learn more about what actual muslims are like, your hatred of them is built upon a Daily Mail inspired image of them that simply does not reflect the majority. You have a real hatred based on what is an imaginary and not at all realistic image of an average muslim. It's sad really, all irrational hatreds and prejudices are.
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