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Originally Posted by Vicky.
Not really...as post-op transsexual women I do agree should be in the womens.
Its when we go a little deeper than that, and it becomes 'but you are asking people to have surgery to use the female loos' and such, where it becomes an issue for me.
Post-op fine
Pre-op not
But this then turns to what I said above...with the logical conclusion to that argument being 'anyone who identifies as a woman is a woman'. Which I totally disagree with as female is just a biological state. You cannot identify your way into or out of it tbh
Minefield. But glad it can finally be actually talked about as this time last year there would have been cries of 'transphobia' for even me saying 'adult human female' 
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I don't understand then what you mean about the womens currently being neutral? Because Caitlyn is post-op and there's the traditional women's sign next to the door.