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Originally Posted by Vicky.
Indeed. personally my view is someone who is actually transsexual using the areas associated with the sex they wish to be is fine. But I don't think this should extend to male bodied people who are simply crossdressers or who do not actually have sex dysphoria. I am fully for 'trans rights' when 'trans' means transsexual, not any bloke who says he is a woman one day. 'Transgender' and 'transsexual' are two very different things.
And yes, there is something sinister about the current transactivist agenda. Honestly, todays transactivists have so much in common with MRAs (the problematic ones...not people actually concerned about the rights of men..there is a difference) that its impossible to ignore.
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I don't think transgender and transexual are that seperate. Crossdressing can be a very different thing (although even then there can be crossovers, some people begin by crossdressing without fully acknowledging their trans thoughts/repressing them, and then later transition. And then some people just enjoy crossdressing for reasons that having nothing to do with gender dysphoria or being trans). But with transgender/transexual sometimes the difference can just come down to a transgender person being denied surgical treatment (which does happen - I'm not sure how much though) or through fear of having such extreme surgeries. However much they might feel they are the opposite sex and want to change physically it's such an extreme and frightening thing that it's understandable why not all transgender people transition. Their actual attitudes and who they are inside is often the same as a transexual though. Obviously not always and a lot of transgender people don't want to transition, I'm just saying that isn't always the case.
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Originally Posted by Vicky.
I would also agree with this. And I used to be (forgive the phrase) a 'corbyn fangirl' pretty much. I thought he was brilliant, I thought he would 'save us'. I am starting to see a very different side to him (and a different side to Momentum also)
I think this is also why the Tories are supporting it all. To win votes that would otherwise go to Labour. With no thought to how it will affect the majority of the population. Very very ill judged, from both parties.
I think too..some people think this is similar to the fight for gay rights. Its not at all. Gay people wanted to be accepted for who they are. They were not proposing taking rights away from another group, they wanted their own rights. This is entirely different. Doesn't help that Stonewall added the T to LGB..which confuses people that little bit more. Ruth Hunt is a ****ing disgrace on this issue, truly. Shes throwing Lesbians especially under the bus. She refuses to comment on the amount of people who would otherwise simply be lesbian adults who are 'transed' as kids. Refuses to comment on the amount of lesbian adults who decide they are actually men so that they do not receive lesbophobic abuse anymore...and so on. She is who should be standing up for the rights of lesbians, being a butch lesbian herself ffs. But no, she won't comment and instead focuses all of her attention on 'trans'. Meanwhile, lesbians are being told they are transphobic for not sucking ladydick and such. Lesbians are deciding they are actually trans to escape the abuse they get as lesbians...more and more kids who would otherwise grow up to be gay are being given puberty blockers then cross sex hormones..and she won't comment at all. Absolutely mental.
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We did get accused of trying to take away other peoples rights though during the whole gay marriage thing. For example infringing on peoples right to religion, if a religious person refused to conduct a marriage ceremony for a gay couple. Even that lesbian wedding cake story it was argued that the gay couple were infringing on the religious rights of the cake store owners, same with the gay couple who were refused a room in a b&b.