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Old 16-12-2017, 11:11 PM #71
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There were scenes I thought were great and times I was really getting into the story, but other times when I felt the length, and was thinking of plot-holes, and was questioning characters' decisions.

I thought the
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Kylo and Rey action scene was great, and liked the Yoda appearance. Generally like the island scenes.

I liked the Kylo-Hux back-and-forth rivalry - thought Hux was better in this one, still obviously a pretty comic over-the-top villain.

I thought the Leia flying through space was weird, she looked like a witch on a broomstick - they played around with the lore of the force in this one, introducing new powers we haven't seen before - another example: Yoda's force ghost having the ability to affect the material world (the lightning, though I wondered later if it was really an illusion) which made me think of the implications that could have had in previous films.

It was a sad end for Luke Skywalker really, the original hero - he's portrayed here initially as a failure, and when he turns up at the end it is just to create a distraction to let what is left of the Resistance escape. He doesn't help Rey, who is the one who can take down the First Order and Kylo. He does help Leia escape though, and I wondered if they hinted with the Leia-using-the-force scenes that she would become a powerful force-user in the next one - but that won't be possible now.

The Canto Bight casino section could have been taken out the film, and you wouldn't notice much. It felt a bit like something out the prequels where they have created an exotic location just for the sake of it, rather than the story. It relied a lot on characters not being sensible - Finn and Rose getting themselves arrested for illegally parking their ship - and then coincidence - happening to find another codebreaker in their prison cell.


The two times I got a bit emotional watching, were right at the beginning when it started, and in the end credits at the tribute message to Carrie Fisher.

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I wonder if Snoke really is dead. Just killing him off, and saying "your parents are just junkies lol" to Rey kind of flies in the face of nearly two years of fan speculation!
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JJ Abrams is partly to blame, I think, for the Snoke and Rey's parents mysteries apparently not being important. I thought at the time that they should have answered those question in Ep 7 rather than left them hanging, but JJ likes his mystery-box where he sets up things that turn out to often have mundane explanations. I'm thinking about Lost here.
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