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Old 09-01-2018, 06:44 PM #32
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Originally Posted by Vicky. View Post
Heh. This really reminded me of a fantastic article I read the other day

https://victimfocus.wordpress.com/20...hat-about-men/

I thought you may appreciate it. Its really good and so true.

After reading the article there wa sa bloke actually contacted the writers husband to check that the woman did do work for mens mental health too [emoji23] There were also a load of blokes attacking her on twitter about being 'sexist towards men' without actually reading the article
Ugh, the "whataboutism" article. I've read it thoroughly and it's just trash. It really is. A big steaming pile of Facebook populism... Yet another sarky hashtag to add to the mounting cacophony of similar terms.

My response is basically this: Yes, it is misguided to say "yeah but what about ______??" as a serious response to any discussion, I totally agree with that, but to try to pretend that it's a new thing and one that mainly affects the discussions of women's issues is simply false and deeply ironic. "Whataboutism", if we have to use the term, plagues the discussion of men's mental health, rights and other issues FAR more than the other way around... To the extent that you can barely discuss it at all (in casual arenas anyway, certainly places like Facebook or twitter) without an absolute flood of "OH BOOHOO MALE TEARS what about women have had it worse for centuries".

All issues should be open for discussion without being interjected with cries of how someone else "has it worse". That SHOULD be a given and thankfully, still is in any vaguely intelligent discussion (so, again... Not Facebook or twitter).

So yeah. Her idea that this is a new thing that men have come up with to shoot down women's issues and her "clever" buzzwording is utterly useless, meaningless and misguided. Another snappy way to attempt to silence people and keep to the character limit. #****ing-yuck.

The second issue is that she claims to have knowledge of these things and yet manages to COMPLETELY miss the point. Women's and Men's mental health can't and shouldn't be compartmentalised and kept as separate issues... They are inherently interwoven, and the mental health of both depends totally on both sets of issues being respected, understood, and handled with care.

Not sarcastic phrases and hashtags that are as subtle as a sledgehammer.
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