[Vicky.]

I watched this and Kathy Newman comes across dreadfully. She went into that interview desperate to catch him out somehow. She brought up ****loads of strawmen and appeared to be arguing against stuff she thought/wished he would say rather than what he actually did say all the way through. Someone collated the amount of times she said 'so you are saying'..always followed by something utterly nonsensical. Was actually easily the worst interview I have ever seen. Am surprised c4 let the interview go out unedited tbh. This does not excuse any threats mind, but the interview as an utter car crash.