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Old 22-01-2018, 09:25 AM #22
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Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
I hate this philosophy... It's dangerous and divisive, happiness is not pointless we are not drones we have a fundamental right to happiness, unlike most things it's free and is found in simple pleasures that anyone can enjoy if you choose to look. This opinion from an academic is very troubling to me.
He will be acutely aware of how to influence and manipulate certain mindsets and he's playing those people like a virtuoso!
This is my opinion as a person, not an intellectual a spirit with free will, a conscience, ego, super ego, libido all that good stuff I don't subscribe to this mind ****ery that we are all intrinsically flawed... Yes we may have an inner psycho but there's also th inner altruist the inner god (or goddess) the ying and yang that makes is two halves of a whole.

He is by admittance a 'true liberal' not a liberal democrat, a liberal... as in he believes in conservatism and their ideology is of course laissez faire, they believe everyone is an individual that others should be cut off and sink or swim .. survival of the fittest . There is nothing new , fresh or particularly edgy in this mans view... it's simply your bog standard tory ethos shuzzed up a bit because he's had a taste of the limelight and is thirsty for more by writing a book, not to warn of the extremes of both right and left.... no, just left. He conveniently forgets to mention the issues surrounding another fascist uprising... There are those still alive who haven't forgotten the last and who I suspect would rather off themselves than live through another!

He is an expert on political issues and influencing belief systems, in other words his knowledge is extremely important to those seeking to control the masses... The war is against 'nice people', those who are only hiding there malevolence, it is people like this guy who are tasked with eeking out this malevolence... suppress your inner nice person and let out your inner twunt! that's the message from this guy..milo...hopkins...morgan...

Personally I believe that happiness is all important because it is impossible to be truly happy and subscribe to hate... it goes against human nature.
The scenario of what if someone is a jerk at work.. you manifest some monster of resentment... no you don't! that's a very childlike base way of thinking as an adult you would first rationalise it then use your conflict resolution skills to correct the issue, confront 'the jerk' assertively or take it higher if it is warranted.. there's no need to stew on things so they become all encompassing that's a nonsense.

He claims to be against groupthink and yet hypocritically he suggests the 'west' is right, why? because their collective way of thinking makes the most sense to him.... so, groupthink then?
If he were from anywhere else that would be the norm because socialisation...because conditioning ... because Christianity blah blah.
Why are we ignorant, tiny and flawed?... because that is how the establishment likes the public not because it is inherent.

If there was one thing I could identify with and say it speaks to me on a fundamental level is this..

'No one gets away with anything, ever, so take responsibility for your own life. You conjure your own world, not only metaphorically but also literally and neurologically. These lessons are what the great stories and myths have been telling us since civilisation began.'

It's essentially the law of attraction what you put out... you get back magnified. It's an ancient theory but as true today as ever. willpower is the most powerful tool we have if you want something, will it. Praying is a group of people willing something the more people that will something the stronger the will the more it is attracted from the universe... but that's another story.
You conjour your own world... so why can't you conjour a happy world? a safe world? a nice world?

Maybe he's worried that one day he will have to atone for the negativity and ill will he advocates? That must be a heavy cross to bear? His misunderstanding of 'nice people' is pitiful, you can go through horrific ordeals and come through with your soul intact... nobody can alter that.

So essentially no I don't subscribe to his view of individualism it smacks of divide and conquer, people are easier to manipulate alone. however I do on a spiritual level as channelers of light (as well as dark) energy, I don't think you should ever see yourself as anything less than a powerful being on a psychological level as well as spiritual, protect yourself, ground yourself, you are child of the universe and he is no Salvador Dali!

To be fair Kizzy I think you're overlooking the fact that he didn't say that being happy is bad... in fact he says it's desireable... but it's also changeable and I personally agree that it's very important to acknowledge that. In the modern world, the message has become confused; the original "pursuit of Happiness" is really talking about the pursuit of contentment, fulfilment, and meaning. There's a common AND VERY DANGEROUS misconception these days that people should be happy all of the time and that something is fundamentally "wrong" if you aren't happy, right now, every moment. But happiness is just one of a whole spectrum of fleeting emotions that comprise human existence... it's NOT a goal, and if you make "happiness" your life goal, you're in for a disappointment... because you'll be happy, then sad, then devastated, then melancholy, then happy again, then devastated, then relieved, then happy, then bored... etc etc. The goal of always being in a permanent state of happiness is unattainable. But people DO seek it, and when it doesn't work out, it causes feeling of failure, depression, anxiety. It causes people to run to the doctor for pills at the first sign of "feeling unhappy" - because there's an idea that normal people "shouldn't feel unhappy" even temporarily.

All he's saying is... seek real meaning elsewhere. Embrace the happy / joyful times when they are there, but accept that life's phases are not always happy ones. You have no idea what's just over the horizon and if you expect it to always be good, happy things then you are screwed... and you also have to accept that you can never have full control over what comes next.


It's also an oversight to suggest that he's "just another individualistic Tory" - as he's a vocal supporter of full Universal Healthcare for all and also in favour of strong benefits systems / large amounts of wealth distribution. Economically speaking he's about as far from Tory as it gets.


The basics of that come into his ideas about accepting the fundamental differences between males and females, too. Like in that video he mentions how, left to their own devices, females are more attracted to healthcare roles than males and males are more attracted to technical roles than women. This is part of creating the overall pay gap, because technical positions are higher paid than healthcare positions. There's a bull**** idea that to address the pay gap, the thing to do is to shuffle everyone up - shift more women into better paid technical roles... that they don't actually want... because then there'll be a smaller wealth gap. Overlooking the fact that men and women just ARE psychologically different and want different careers... and instead of saying "everyone is the same and can do the same jobs"... you can just as easily address the pay gap simply by paying healthcare providers more.
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