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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier
I just have to add here, I genuinely don't think that anyone on TiBB has ever been accused of racism for questioning mass immigration? It's really not about the stance, it's about the arguments used to justify that stance.
e.g.
"I'm against mass immigration because our country simply cannot economically handle the influx of people, we don't have the infrastructure" <-- Not racist in the slightest
"I'm against immigration because I'm worried about sleeper terrorists entering the country" - STILL not racist.
"I'm against immigration because I believe that most men from certain other cultures are violent and dangerous by nature and will attack and abuse people here" - getting kind of racist now
Also the idea that people don't "get to decide who is racist or not" - well, that's true, if you're talking in objective terms... but everyone is free to form their own view of someone, so it's perfectly reasonable for anyone to say to anyone else, "I find you to be racist". It's an opinion of someone... you DO get to decide that. It's really absolutely no different from saying "I find you snowflakey" or "I think you are too PC" or any other opinion that a person might have of another person. That opinion may or may not be factually accurate, but it is still "true that it is that person's opinion".
All that said; I find myself agreeing with what Ammi said earlier in the thread, and that labelling on both sides probably isn't helpful in any way. However... you can't really complain about someone calling you racist if you are happy to call them a snowflake, a "lefty", or PC... and vice versa.
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Yes everyone is free to form their own view and state it as their opinion. But some on here don't do that - they present their opinion as if it were a proven fact.
If people don't want to be called snowflakes, lefty or PC than don't call others bigots, racist or homophobic based on very little then. It isn't rocket science. From my experience it is nearly always those on the left that start with the name-calling.