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Old 06-02-2018, 06:23 AM #216
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OK I will try and explain here but I am genuinely half asleep so excuse typos and any nonsense. Not even sure why I am replying now, but I can't sleep and am reading through the deleted stuff all over.

So there have been many many reports and complaints about every thread in this section being turned into a Corbyn one. I think its a valid complaint, I see it everywhere and I do think its ruining the forum. I mean, the Hitler thread a few days back was almost immediately turned into a Corbyn thread. Then all of the Corbyn stuff was deleted and people still kept trying to bring Corbyn into it. Deleted a few times actually and still people tried and tried, it was tedious, as is moderating this section in general ATM. Its just really getting beyond a joke now and yes, we will be deleting random Corbyn crap thats posted in irrelevant areas.

IF there was anywhere near the amount of that for, say May/Mogg/Trump, we would do exactly the same thing. If there was a group of posters constantly turning every thread into a thread about May/Mogg/Trump/whoever then it would be the same.

Its not censoring negative views on Corbyn because 1. This thread is proof that negative stuff is allowed, and there are other threads also. If there was censorship, then these would be gone. 2. If there were any members bringing up positive Corbyn stuff in every thread that would also be deleted. And 3. Its absolute rubbish that we would try to censor one side in the first place. If we silenced all of one opinion, this forum would be dead as there would be nothing to actually debate (read, argue ) about. What good is an echo chamber. Of course noone wants that, thats ridiculous.

Its just got far too over the top now and does sometimes come across as baiting, but sometimes as a bit of an obsession.

Though I do agree that maybe it was a bit harsh removing mention of Corbyn from the Rees Mogg thread, but again, this has been done in reaction to the ridiculous wave of Corbyn nonsense that is sweeping this section from the same few members. Also the removed posts were not exactly anything to do with the thread topic. There was no mention of the thread topic in the removed posts, it was all very much like a random 'Corbyn Is A Very Bad Man' and while yes, many of the posts on that thread were basically 'Mogg Is a Very Bad Man'..thats actually what the topic was about.

I mean, if Corbyn had to be brought up, even something like 'I acknowledge the video. I do think Corbyn is just as bad though. Neither would be good PMs' or 'I think Mogg is great, that video is propaganda. He would be a much better PM than Corbyn'. But honestly, its at the stage where even that could be problematic as what would happen is the Corbyn bit would be quoted, more Corbyn stuff posted, and then it will just totally be a Corbyn thread between the same couple of members and anyone coming in to actually discuss the thread topic, will see all of the Corbyn stuff and not even bother posting as whats the point? Seriously, this has to end. This section is just a ****ing mess and getting worse by the day. Its not always negative Corbyn posts deleted either, when people do bring up positive Corbyn stuff in unrelated threads for no reason, they get deleted too. But thats pretty rare as oddly enough, on here (not IRL) his supporters do not seem as obsessed with him as those who dislike him.

So TLDR; to be clear, anyone who will consistently take threads offtopic and make one line posts about a singular topic and turn near every thread into the same repetitive stuff, will have their posts deleted and tbh, if it keeps going then bans (from this section only) will start being given out.

So yeah, I hope this all makes sense.
First of all, thank you Vicky for posting an explanation.

The problem I have here is that you mention the same few posters bringing up Corbyn all the time. If it's necessary to police Corbyn posts isn't that where it should begin? I know I don't post about him all the time and I can't say I've seen Jet do so which makes it difficult to understand why our posts were targeted. He wasn't being called scum. And I would say it is relevant to point out that the language used towards tory MPs is a lot more inflammatory than the language used about labour from what I see.

I would also argue that the leader of the labour party is always relevant in a political thread.

Can I ask if the Corbyn censorship will also be applied to those having his face as an avatar? Perhaps if we, as a forum, didn't have to look at him so often he wouldn't get brought up so much.
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