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Old 06-02-2018, 06:52 AM #8
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Originally Posted by Vicky. View Post
I don't really think there is an agenda as such tbh. Many people do feminism in their own way. Have their own priorities and such. My point about women setting the agenda..was not really saying 'oh all women should agree on this and do this' but more..women should lead the discussion. Like, I don't appreciate men telling me something I experienced was not sexist, unless it was an incident actually involving them or they were there to see it and give their opinion. If that makes sense? It just seems a lot of men are very much like 'oh feminism is not needed in the West, you all just want to be better than us, go focus on female genital mutliation in third world cointries instead' and such which is not helpful at all, to anyone or anything. I'm not sure I am explaining myself properly here as I have not slept yet..but as usual it makes sense in my head, just probably does not come out right.

What feminism means to me..as I said earlier

So..anything goes, as long as the desired result is the same, in short


...no you make perfect sense and explain well...and I think we’re all on the same page, it’s just more ...how does that page go forward and progress, as it were...because it’s feminism and striving for equality for females and also highlighting some of the ‘wrongs’ females endure, just through being the gender they are...females will always be and ‘play the bigger part’ because it’s about many things that they personally experience, which men don’t and haven’t because of their gender...and obviously that in itself, will mean that females will often be the ‘leads’ in discussion etc because they have personal experiences and insights that a man could never have...but then, there would be times for me also, when the lead of a man in a discussion, could be very progressive, also...so then the danger there is that feminism could ‘alienate’, some potential great allies...and could potentially alienate through gender alone, which is basically what we women and we feminists are giving our experiences of.../..of the discrimination and oppressions felt by us because of only our very gender...


...the men that would say...oh, stop complaining and go and look at female gender mutilation etc...well, they aren’t the men that feminism would ever want to have as an ally or ‘lead’ voice though...so yeah, we’ll just go ahead and not give their voices any part in the discussions....because those voices are obviously not recognising ‘feminism’...


...anyways, I’m probably the one who isn’t explaining well because I’m rushing, so I’ll just hope something makes some sense, somehow...
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