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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier
Being fair to the mod team, threads have been pulled completely off topic by people who have, essentially, decided that they have no interest in the actual thread topic and have something to say about something else that's far more important or "makes a point". I get the impression that there's been an overall decision to try to stop this from happening, and it's a recent decision, which is going to take some time to "settle" and be implemented in the best way. For example, turning a fairly academic thread about Hitler into "Corbyn moans" I can't accept as anything other than total nonsense. On the other hand, I feel like bringing up Corbyn (or May, or any other high profile politician) in any thread about UK domestic politics is absolutely fair game,so maybe the policy is being implemented too heavy-handedly. I can't say for certain because I can't see which posts were removed.
My only other caveat would be... If its not bringing it up in a way that actually engages with the thread topic, but instead having exactly the same posts and points regurgitated ad nauseum in multiple threads, then is it really adding anything to the debate? If it's just more "whataboutism" then I can't really agree that it does. A full well thought out post, let's say, COMPARING Corbyn to the relevant people mentioned in a thread, whilst still actually discussing the thread topic is totally fine. Completely ignoring the thread topic, making no effort to engage with it, and just saying "Oh yeah well WHAT ABOUT ..." and going off on a tangent, is not really an acceptable part of debate.
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EXACTLY THIS.
My god you can put things better than I can. This is what I was trying to say pages back. But was either misunderstood or ignored. I suspect purposely misunderstood.
Corbyn is relevant in many current political threads, of course. But the deleted posts were not comparing, say Corbyns voting record to Moggs or anything like that. They were literally just 'What about Corbyn' and 'You support Corbyn' 'random Corbyn bollocks' which were nothing at all to do with the actual thread. This was the problem in there, not bringing up Corbyn or being negative or whatever. There could be a similar thread about Corbyns voting record...and if people came into it not even acknowledging the topic and just posting 'what about May/Mogg' 'your opinion is crap as you support May/Mogg' or whatever, then those would be offtopic nonsense and removed too. Theres just no need for it. none at all. It adds nothing and takes threads offtopic on a regular basis. Its almost always the same stuff that does it...and it just so happens that its almost always 'but Corbyn' stuff. So its the 'but Corbyn' stuff thats being deleted.
I cannot leave the thread FFS. I am trying
Disclaimer. I do agree it may have been heavy handed removing the posts in that Mogg thread though, as I said over and over. But I understood why they were deleted, which was basically because of TS bold part up there^
The more I have thought about the deletions, the more I do think I agree with them though. Especially given the amount of 'but Corbyn' posts there are elsewhere too and the sheer amount of threads that get taken offtopic by it all.