[Withano]

If you guys want serious debates to be, ignoring the OP and patting each other on the back and talking about the injustices you think you face every single day, then sure, continue I guess.

I'll continue to remind you to talk about the OP if you dont mind cos I do quite like the subforum, I'll just be less persistent next time. There seems to be a quite firm gang who just dont enjoy discussion, unless they change it about themselves or other forum members. Its kinda tragic.