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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey
This is heating up and it is worrying.
I don’t know if i have confidence in either Labour or the Tories on this.
Corbyn did try and score points the other day by going on about diplomat cuts after it’d just happened which was not the time and tbh i don’t think he’s strong enough to run a bath nevermind a country and deal with people such as Putin.
However i do wonder if May could use abit of his caution.
We definitely do need a leader who has the balls to stand up and be strong in times like these and to give us confidence but we don’t want to rush headlong into possibly irreversible decisions either.
With how delicate this situation is i’m thinking she was maybe abit hasty.When we’re hearing things like it was “more than likely” the Russian state.Is that good enough really?Should’nt we be sure before expelling 23 diplomats and taking other harsh measures against a military superpower?
She gave Russia 24 hours to give an explanation before she acted.She knew she wouldn’t get one because Russia doesn’t respond to ultimatums.
What if this wasn’t a government sanctioned hit?What if this Novichok was leaked to somebody by someone lower down than Putin who wanted to stir up a diplomatic crisis before his election?
It may not be likely but possible.Even Theresa May said they could have “lost control” of it.
Should we as a country be acting so strongly on “more than likelies”?
Maybe it would’ve been wise to let the investigation go on abit longer for more certainty.
Gavin Williamson’s speech was nothing more than embarrassing.He didn’t sound tough,diplomatic or intelligent.I mean “shut up and go away”.Come on.
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Military grade nerve agents are not something that can be cobbled together from items found down the local supermarket. There have been incredibly tight controls on these things for decades. They are manufactured in completely isolated laboratories. So, given this particular weapons signature, it could only have come from Russia. So the PM was correct. The Russian state were ultimately responsible for its security. If it was deployed by them, they are to blame, if they let someone else deploy it, they are to blame. If it was stolen from their facility, they are to blame for allowing it to be stolen and need to be forthcoming about who stole it and in what quantity. As the Russian state did not respond with any reasonable explanation, the only conclusion that can be drawn was that it was a state sponsored attack.
As to things escalating out of control. We can't have any events like this repeating. What happens if the next time it is deployed, its in a cinema, the underground, an enclosed shopping center?
The diplomats that are being kicked out are those without specific responsibility, which means they are spies who either carried out the attempted murder of the father and daughter or coordinated it. It seems perfectly reasonable to eject anyone who is not here performing a specific diplomatic role, so on that basis, the PM is perfectly justified in her actions.