[DemolitionRed]

The problem for me is, this started as an energetic and Inteligent debate some months ago. The person who lead that debate was very diplomatic and many of the people who joined in, including you Kizzy, stated the opinion they are entitled to in a way that it could be discussed further. I think most of enjoyed that debate. Then other debates started where transgenderism was a main point and because it had now been established who was for and against, it was much more vitriol than the first one. It started to sound hateful and transphobic, unlike the first one. I didn't join in those threads because I didn't see any point. I saw comments being accepted that didn't sit comfortably with me and so after reading half a dozen posts, I just sighed and shut it down. At one point on here it felt like transgenderism was being hung drawn and quartered.

I think Vicky, Niamh and Kizzy are intelligent women and more than capable of having some good debates. Unfortunately those sort of threads attract tag teaming and bitterness from certain people who's only way of debating is to make a strong attempt to shut opposing opinions down. I know I came back strongly at Vicky in that first post. She didn't take offense but explained why she felt like she did and equally, I didn't take offense at why she felt the way she did. I can't though, remain calm when someone else jumps on my explanation of acceptance and attempts to mock my opinion with sarcasms.