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Old 04-04-2018, 12:52 PM #367
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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed View Post
Lets get one thing straight because your undertone suggests I'm anti-Semitic and coming from you, that holds a mighty punch.

I have nothing against your Jewish affiliation and I don't regard your Zionism as part and parcel of your religion. I'm sure you will argue with that but my stance remains, Zionism is a political movement and not a religious one. A lot of Jews would agree with me; a lot wouldn't. Its no different than disliking one political movement over another. I also appreciate that there's a Left wing Zionist movement in Israel. You can be a Zionist and support an independent state alongside Israel and see the Left Bank occupation as tragic but the Zionist Federation Refuses to Accept Left-wing pro-Israel Movement. In other words they have no voice.

So lets leave Zionism out of things and concentrate on the political think tanks both in Israel and globally instead of intertwining Judaism in all of this because when we intertwine Judaism, you can make accusations of anti-Semitism on here and be believed by all those people on your side. You need to stop using your faith as a weapon to put political thinkers questioning truths.

Another thing, after reading numerous work from young IDF soldiers I got a very strong impression that their families were totally unaware about just how badly Palestinian families are treated. They live in a utopia and don't see what goes on because the horrors are so well concealed. I believe many Zionists would be horrified if and when they discover all is not as it appears.
again you are ranting about Israel, this is not about Israel its about corbyn being ant-Semitic?

please stop derailing the thread
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