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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My point was more that there are obviously more and more measures that can be taken and its not just a case of "anything goes for safety". I mean how about... We make it that people under 18 aren't allowed to leave their homes AT ALL other than to attend school. That would definitely save young lives? But we would never consider doing it. Because at the end of the day, everyone has to admit that they draw the line between liberty and safety SOMEWHERE. For some, random searches without cause are on the acceptable side of that line. For others, it never will be.



They check insurance / MOT status remotely these days with no need to pull anyone over and other than that... No... I'm not OK with the police pulling people over without cause. As far as I'm aware, they don't? They would only pull you over if you were speeding or driving erratically, which is when they would test for inebriation. Or for safety reasons like if there were signs of there being something wrong with the vehicle.

Before cameras became the norm, they pulled you over, the last time we were in Ireland there was a Garda checkpoint, in Spain you will often find the Guardia Civil stopping traffic and randomly checking things, I don't this it is a bad thing, as it acts as prevention, if you think you might be stopped and searched I think you would be less likely to wander around with a kitchen knife in your pocket, that is my view anyway