[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Dortmund have built themselves up over a long time. Leipzig doing the same at the moment; there's a right way to build up a club, or a way that breaks the rules of the sport.

Leipzig have gone from 5th division to title challengers in ten years, not sure that constitutes building yourself up over a long time

Before this I thought City had done a good job actually investing a lot in infrastructure, their academy and in their women's team. They have actually nurtured a lot of young talent and there's plenty of players that have pretty much been made by City

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

This now gives West Ham the impetus to push for that free European spot

More hopeful of a City relegation giving 18th place a reprieve

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Leipzig have gone from 5th division to title challengers in ten years, not sure that constitutes building yourself up over a long time

Before this I thought City had done a good job actually investing a lot in infrastructure, their academy and in their women's team. They have actually nurtured a lot of young talent and there's plenty of players that have pretty much been made by City

My main point was that it's possible to build a football club up the right way without breaking all the rules. The model of good young players, sell ons, then rinse and repeat is the best way to do it, as is the Leipzig and Dortmund models.

I always liked city, but the crazy conspiracy theories over the last 2 years, often indulged by Pep himself is a bridge too far.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Christ. All I've seen for two days is Pep is off and taking Aguero and De Bruyne with him, we are being sent to league two and are going to have 4 fans watching despite having one of the most dedicated working class fanbases follow them in whatever situation with in.

Anything else going to happen to us?!

I heard they will lose any titles won in the offending 4 seasons ..
Resulting in Liverpool winning their first premier title under Brendon ..


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Christ. All I've seen for two days is Pep is off and taking Aguero and De Bruyne with him, we are being sent to league two and are going to have 4 fans watching despite having one of the most dedicated working class fanbases follow them in whatever situation with in.

Anything else going to happen to us?!

I wouldn't take it personally, Football fans like to see a top team possibly about to fall (unless it's their team of course) tbh I am probably guilty of this aspect within the Football fandom too.

But if Liverpool go and win the next 3 or 4 Premier League titles, I'm willing to bet that the neutrals would be rooting for Man City to stop them, or any team to stop them.

But yeah people are underestimating how many fans that you guys actually have.

[bitontheslide]

speaking as a Man U supporter, i think the way city were "investigated" was atrocious. I don't see the ban being upheld in appeal, but if it is, it will be football that suffers

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

speaking as a Man U supporter, i think the way city were "investigated" was atrocious. I don't see the ban being upheld in appeal, but if it is, it will be football that suffers

Ultimately its the fans who suffer too.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Ultimately its the fans who suffer too.

C'mon, they've been watching a club that's cheated their way to the top of the game, and now they refuse to accept that cheating is wrong. They've been throwing claims around about other clubs all season; and I'll especially enjoy the taintedtitle hashtag for the next couple of years

[LeatherTrumpet]

Bad news for City that their next game after this shaming is against the much improved West Ham - losing at home on Weds will really start the spiral downwards.

[Alf]

I just read that article, and I still don't understand what they've done wrong. Can someone explain to me, in normal people terms, what they've done?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

I just read that article, and I still don't understand what they've done wrong. Can someone explain to me, in normal people terms, what they've done?

My brother told me it was something like them lying about how much money they were making through sponsors etc so that they could spend more money. In the interests of fair play you're supposed to spend earned money rather than the rich owners money

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

My brother told me it was something like them lying about how much money they were making through sponsors etc so that they could spend more money. In the interests of fair play you're supposed to spend earned money rather than the rich owners money

They have internal emails supporting this from employees talking about how much the sponsors were providing and how much of the deal was being paid by their owner.

[The Slim Reaper]

This kind of craziness has been going on for 2 years. Everything is a conspiracy to them.

[Alf]

Bloody money, whether you've got too much or nothing at all, it always causes problems.

It was better when football was played on a field of grass rather than a boardroom.

[James]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

This kind of craziness has been going on for 2 years. Everything is a conspiracy to them.

Wasn't there a Liverpool forum that was just the same and always going into meltdowns a few years back.

I remember Locke on here saying the account that reported on it was his favourite account.

RAWK I think.

[LeatherTrumpet]

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by James

Wasn't there a Liverpool forum that was just the same and always going into meltdowns a few years back.

I remember Locke on here saying the account that reported on it was his favourite account.

RAWK I think.

Rawk is just an OTT fanboy kind of thing. Complete loons and always a funny read, but nothing approaching the conspiracy theories on blue moon.

If any Liverpool manager came out with a rawk conspiracy theory the way pep promoted the blue moon Scudamore one, your comparison may have proved more accurate.