[Livia]

Something like 50% of marriages end in divorce. I don't know what percentage of them are are messy but I'm guessing it's quite a few. The fact that they were royal is incidental.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

I was born in 1980.

Interesting


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

They haven't done a bad job since they took the throne. They can only deal with what's put in front of them. I don't think it's particularly fair to single individuals out when they were all pretty much as bad as each other. None of them came out of it smelling of roses

She , who shall not be mentioned in name , was married and sleeping with a newly married man whilst his young wife ( aged just 20) was at home none the wiser ..


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

She , who shall not be mentioned in name , was married and sleeping with a newly married man whilst his young wife ( aged just 20) was at home none the wiser ..


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Diana knew before she married Charles. You seem to have forgotten that she pushed her sister out of the way to marry Charles too, she was no innocent little girl

[jet]

Originally Posted by Zizu

She , who shall not be mentioned in name , was married and sleeping with a newly married man whilst his young wife ( aged just 20) was at home none the wiser ..


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Where did you get that from, the Crown series?

Diana was sleeping with the not long married Will Carling, while his wife Julia was at home none the wiser....which led to their divorce. She also had another affair with a married man, what about his wife?
I liked Diana a lot, but she was no saint, no matter how much you think she was.
And don't forget, the men were cheaters too, you seem to put the bulk of the blame on Camilla, the woman; it takes two to tango...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jet

Where did you get that from, the Crown series?

Diana was sleeping with the not long married Will Carling, while his wife Julia was at home none the wiser....which led to their divorce. She also had another affair with a married man, what about his wife?
I liked Diana a lot, but she was no saint, no matter how much you think she was.
And don't forget, the men were cheaters too, you seem to put the bulk of the blame on Camilla, the woman; it takes two to tango...

That despicable( married) woman was having an affair with CharlieBoy before he was married and carried on sleeping with him whilst he was courting a teenage Di … ( including reportedly the night before his marriage) .. the affair carried on after he married Di … but then you expect Di to carry on being a dutiful wife .. give me a break

Just carry on worshiping the ‘terrible two’ ..


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[jet]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That despicable( married) woman was having an affair with CharlieBoy before he was married and carried on sleeping with him whilst he was courting a teenage Di … ( including reportedly the night before his marriage) .. the affair carried on after he married Di … but then you expect Di to carry on being a dutiful wife .. give me a break

Just carry on worshiping the ‘terrible two’ ..


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And you know all this how? Watching the fictional Crown? It has been vehemently denied that they were having an affair after Charles and Diana became an item and didn’t resume it until 5 years after their marriage, when it became ‘irretrievably broken down’. Charles and Camilla stayed close, but not in the way you portray it. Diana herself never disputed that.

Camilla’s husband was carrying on with a lot of women and you expected her to continue to be the dutiful wife? Why was it fine for Diana but not Camilla?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jet

And you know all this how? Watching the fictional Crown? It has been vehemently denied that they were having an affair after Charles and Diana became an item and didn’t resume it until 5 years after their marriage, when it became ‘irretrievably broken down’. Charles and Camilla stayed close, but not in the way you portray it. Diana herself never disputed that.

Camilla’s husband was carrying on with a lot of women and you expected her to continue to be the dutiful wife? Why was it fine for Diana but not Camilla?

I’ve never watched The Crown as it’s a fictional drama .


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jet

And you know all this how? Watching the fictional Crown? It has been vehemently denied that they were having an affair after Charles and Diana became an item and didn’t resume it until 5 years after their marriage, when it became ‘irretrievably broken down’. Charles and Camilla stayed close, but not in the way you portray it. Diana herself never disputed that.

Camilla’s husband was carrying on with a lot of women and you expected her to continue to be the dutiful wife? Why was it fine for Diana but not Camilla?

Before she discovered she’d married a lying cheating scumbag … Di was completely innocent and totally naive … everything that happened after discovering what the gruesome twosome had been doing throughout her supposedly dreamlike marriage is completely understandable - effectively they ‘broke’ her and she was never the same person


If course we will never agree on this topic


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"Charles broke his shoulder at Cirencester and the shortwave radios were listening for when Diana was driving down from London to see him in hospital.

"With Camilla already there, she had to scarper out the back when Diana arrived. It was a situation that put a great deal of strain on a lot of people.

When Diana complained about the relationship and raised her suspicions … Charles' friends would say: 'Don't be such a silly girl, they're just friends’

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[jet]

Originally Posted by Zizu

If course we will never agree on this topic

We can agree on our fondness for Diana.I had a lot of sympathy for her and really liked her, in fact in those days I liked her better than I liked Charles or Camilla, but that isn’t going to make me blindly believe that Charles was carrying on an affair with Camilla for the whole of his courtship and marriage to Diana.

In all that I’ve read and heard over the years he wasn’t, five years passed before he started an affair with Camilla. Some say Diana started having affairs before Charles went back to Camilla. Also untrue.
It was just an unfortunate match between 2 people who both had troubled childhoods and were unsuited to each other and sought happiness elsewhere. Happens every day of the week.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jet

We can agree on our fondness for Diana.I had a lot of sympathy for her and really liked her, in fact in those days I liked her better than I liked Charles or Camilla, but that isn’t going to make me blindly believe that Charles was carrying on an affair with Camilla for the whole of his courtship and marriage to Diana.

In all that I’ve read and heard over the years he wasn’t, five years passed before he started an affair with Camilla. Some say Diana started having affairs before Charles went back to Camilla. Also untrue.
It was just an unfortunate match between 2 people who both had troubled childhoods and were unsuited to each other and sought happiness elsewhere. Happens every day of the week.

I’ve heard /read many times from different sources that Clamila was smuggled into the palace the night before Di’s dream wedding …


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interesting


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Rude.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Rude.

What !!!??


How was that rude ?

I think it’s interesting / intriguing that you were 19 at the time and so would remember the complete wave of sadness that swept the country yet .. you apparently hated her


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What !!!??


How was that rude ?

I think it’s interesting / intriguing that you were 19 at the time and so would remember the complete wave of sadness that swept the country yet .. you apparently hated her


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Yes, one word replies can be misconstrued, can't they?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, one word replies can be misconstrued, can't they?

Oh well no harm done ..


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