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In the sneak peak, talking about Sam Nancy and Caroline he says. Them, Nancy and Caroline.

Sam said he's not into all that nonsense on the first HL show.
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Sam also said he doesn't mind what pronouns people use - "you can't say the wrong thing with good intentions", or something like that.

In Zelah's case, I think it's just overly performative.
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Sam also said he doesn't mind what pronouns people use - "you can't say the wrong thing with good intentions", or something like that.

In Zelah's case, I think it's just overly performative.


What about, the wrong thing with bad intentions
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Sam was called she, and he on L&L last night, AJ had to correct the people calling Sam he or she with "they". So i dunno, maybe Sam has said something in the DR we haven't seen. But seems a lot of others are confused too.
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…I just re-watched the vid and I think/my understanding is that Zelah says that he’s finding it hard to trust Sam atm, ‘that little trio’…but he hadn’t said who the trio were so adds Nancy and Caroline as the other two because he’s already named Sam….’them’ just means the ‘little trio’, is my understanding…
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Maybe the whole episode will clear it up.

He was really funny though, Sam that is. Not Zelah.
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…I just re-watched the vid and I think/my understanding is that Zelah says that he’s finding it hard to trust Sam atm, ‘that little trio’…but he hadn’t said who the trio were so adds Nancy and Caroline as the other two because he’s already named Sam….’them’ just means the ‘little trio’, is my understanding…
I thought that too, that's how i took it anyway, But who knows, it's difficult to comprehend when referring to a single person as "them". It just seems like a very alien concept, maybe in a few years and using the "they/them" pronouns will become less confusing
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I'm sure there was a conversation in the first week where Sam said they don't really mind which pronouns are used but prefers 'they' as they're non-binary? I don't have the quote/clip, though.
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I'm sure there was a conversation in the first week where Sam said they don't really mind which pronouns are used but prefers 'they' as they're non-binary? I don't have the quote/clip, though.
…is this it, Shaun…?…

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I remember that too yeah but I'm sure there was mention of the "they/them" pronouns very early on in the series too because I picked up on it and preferred to use it.
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Marcus referred to Sam as "they" too. I guess it's just a personal choice since Sam has said any pronoun is fine
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when i was a lad calling people they/them was considered very impolite
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The psychology is that it makes marginalised people feel important. Feeling important is a fundamental human need
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In the sneak peak, talking about Sam Nancy and Caroline he says. Them, Nancy and Caroline.

Sam said he's not into all that nonsense on the first HL show.
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