[Vanessa]

I would still support Richard even without the Caroline thing. I just like him.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Nah, they are comforting themselves by saying that, what we have in Richard is someone who throws himself into tasks, has a witty turn of phrase and isn't going down the tried and tested route of ...playing dumb, going for a showmance, playing up to the cameras, talking to himself for the cameras, just an all round refreshing HM even when he is in the DR he perks up, he also never feels sorry for himself which is also a good trait

And rhosia why he's my favourite.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Im a Richard fan and have been for a while but I agree he wouldn’t be the fave to win without Caroline.

…no I think that he might be around 4th/5th but the odds are saying higher obviously and yeah…there is a connection to Caroline also…


…but then there is often…(…if not always, I don’t know…)…a connection of…’those circumstances and because of and which housemates are also there and their behaviour…’…etc…?….with Craig for instance in the very first BB, would he have won had it not been for Nasty Nick and that Craig was the one that led the ‘house meeting’….…hmmmmm….there’s often ‘that specific thing’ that can boost a housemate in terms of their public vote and with Richard, yeah Caroline has been that ‘boost’ I agree…he said himself that ‘she would be lost without him’ or some such similar words…because both of their storylines have had the other one play a huge part…but that’s often how BB works, I think…

…not for Brian Dowling, though…he was a lone act who shone in his own right……

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…no I think that he might be around 4th/5th but the odds are saying higher obviously and yeah…there is a connection to Caroline also…


…but then there is often…(…if not always, I don’t know…)…a connection of…’those circumstances and because of and which housemates are also there and their behaviour…’…etc…?….with Craig for instance in the very first BB, would he have won had it not been for Nasty Nick and that Craig was the one that led the ‘house meeting’….…hmmmmm….there’s often ‘that specific thing’ that can boost a housemate in terms of their public vote and with Richard, yeah Caroline has been that ‘boost’ I agree…he said himself that ‘she would be lost without him’ or some such similar words…because both of their storylines have had the other one play a huge part…but that’s often how BB works, I think…

…not for Brian Dowling, though…he was a lone act who shone in his own right……

I think he would have already gone against Zelah, but if he had made the final yeah 5-3rd at best.

[rsefitpro2011]

I like Richard, he is a nice and honest, very gentle and politely spoken. He also had a dry sense of humour, however i feel that he is only the favourite based on the ongoing situation with Caroline.

If Caroline didn't have a go at him, he would finish 3rd if not 4th.

At the end of the day, it all depends what your preference is for a winner, I am not quite sure what the public want to watch on TV?

Drama and everything else comes from either Caroline or Jenny, but if its calmness, normality etc then Richard is your man.

Either way he is doing himself proud and good luck to him.

[Abra]

I didn't vote for him out of pity. I voted for him because I admire how he has handled Caroline's obsession with him which is starting to seem a bit unhinged. As much as Caroline has been entertaining in moments, her vendetta against Richard has gotten to a point where it's kind of disturbing as she clearly cannot help herself, it's like a compulsion for her at this point.

There's moments where their dynamic is funny, but then moments where she says things like he reads his bible because he has no life which is just downright nasty and uncalled for.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Im a Richard fan and have been for a while but I agree he wouldn’t be the fave to win without Caroline.

In all fairness though, you could probably make this argument about many winners/favourites before. They grow their popularity and win based on the circumstances they find themselves in in the house and their relationships with the other housemates. For example, Ali may not have won if it wasn't for her rivalry with Khaled/Marcello. Jordan may not have won if it wasn't for his relationship with Henry. Isabelle may not have won if she hadn't been in the house with Lotan and stood up to his bullying, and so on. Even with someone who has a huge personality, their popularity usually grows as a result of their interactions with the housemates they find themselves with.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Abra

I didn't vote for him out of pity. I voted for him because I admire how he has handled Caroline's obsession with him

You are right, he has been defined by Caroline and would be nothing without her.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Abra

In all fairness though, you could probably make this argument about many winners/favourites before. They grow their popularity and win based on the circumstances they find themselves in in the house and their relationships with the other housemates. For example, Ali may not have won if it wasn't for her rivalry with Khaled/Marcello. Jordan may not have won if it wasn't for his relationship with Henry. Isabelle may not have won if she hadn't been in the house with Lotan and stood up to his bullying, and so on. Even with someone who has a huge personality, their popularity usually grows as a result of their interactions with the housemates they find themselves with.

Of course, a lot of winners have had a boost because of others. I’m not disputing that.

But there’s Richard fans saying he would be where he is without Caroline, which isn’t true at all.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You are right, he has been defined by Caroline and would be nothing without her.

But as almost all of Caroline's airtime has been revolving around Richard, you could say the same thing about her.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Abra

But as almost all of Caroline's airtime has been revolving around Richard, you could say the same thing about her.

The difference is that Caroline, and I say this not even liking her much, has put it all on the line.

She has played the game in the house and risked a lot in there. Say what you want about her, but she has worked hard this season to try and make good telly. She would have been the same in different ways if Richard hadn't been there.

She is the actor, he is the passive reactor. They are not equals in this.