[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Whenfollowing the thread and everything that’s been said, there is nothing personal at all…it feels as though you’re ’imagining and encouraging conflicts that just aren’t there…’….anyway I’m off, this is just silly to continue…

Have you read through the other threads I mentioned ?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I mean and to be blunt, Zizu…you’ve stated yourself that you seem to have formed an opinion on a show that you’ve watched for 20 minutes/or a similar very short time and have dismissed it’s whole concept and only gained interest because of the celebrities/not because of the show in it’s format as such…that’s an opinion and thought that many, many people will be in line with because it’s one of the most successful and watched shows on the BBC, it’s become a phenomenon…not just in the UK but internationally as well……

I refer to #34

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s not a case of not liking your posts .. I simply don’t appreciate you taking the opposite view about everything I say .. just for the sake of it


As regards to my use of ‘ everything’

I could say ..

“ I love ‘everything’ about the Beatles .. their music, their personalities their image , their story “

.. but I absolutely hate Yellow Submarine and Walrus’s Garden soooo

I don’t disagree with everything you say.

But if I do disagree with you on things then that’s tough I’m afraid. You’re posting on a forum where people are allowed to reply with a difference of opinion. You just hate when people disagree with you by moaning they are making it personal etc when that isn’t true.

Let’s end this now. If you don’t appreciate me disagreeing with you, then as I’ve said, put me on ignore.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Have you read through the other threads I mentioned ?

…oh stop, this is a thread that’s questioning whether one of the current most successful shows on UK TV and also internationally, should be culled and only seemingly to be based on having dismissed that show in the first episode after around 20 minutes or so…you’re the only one who is attaching other threads or other thoughts to this and creating an imagining of something that isn’t there…and in doing that, completely oblivious that you could be upsetting someone else with your accusations, which are completely unfounded…

…ok that’s enough…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I don’t disagree with everything you say.

But if I do disagree with you on things then that’s tough I’m afraid. You’re posting on a forum where people are allowed to reply with a difference of opinion. You just hate when people disagree with you by moaning they are making it personal etc when that isn’t true.

Let’s end this now. If you don’t appreciate me disagreeing with you, then as I’ve said, put me on ignore.

Maybe I am over sensitive.. I just feel/ felt that you take the opposite view to get a response

Time will tell ..

[Zizu]

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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Maybe I am over sensitive.. I just feel/ felt that you take the opposite view to get a response

Time will tell ..

This is where you need to get over yourself. I disagree (and agree) with many people’s opinions on here. It’s a forum - we discuss things. Not everyone will agree on things, which is fine. But to call out people on things which are not there because you don’t like them not agreeing with you is silly.

My suggestions have been to either pop me on ignore or don’t post on the forum if you can’t handle people disagreeing with you.

I’m not saying anymore on this matter, as I think it’s been hashed out as much as it can be.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You suggested that I’m imagining something because it isn’t present in this thread … when I’d already listed 3 or 4 other threads .

…and there it is, there is nothing present in this thread to justify or explain what you’re levelling at another member, it’s being totally imagined and it’s unfair for many reasons…and not least of all because you’re not giving any thought at all about how this is making them feel, whether it’s dragging their forum time Doen to feeling less enjoyable…anything else is for the threads involved/to be addressed there or more appropriately even, to be addressed privately or with a staff member…I mean seriously, you’re completely being provocative here and you yourself have derailed this thread and taken it down a personal route…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…and there it is, there is nothing present in this thread to justify or explain what you’re levelling at another member, it’s being totally imagined and it’s unfair for many reasons…and not least of all because you’re not giving any thought at all about how this is making them feel, whether it’s dragging their forum time Doen to feeling less enjoyable…anything else is for the threads involved/to be addressed there or more appropriately even, to be addressed privately or with a staff member…I mean seriously, you’re completely being provocative here and you yourself have derailed this thread and taken it down a personal route…

Well that was obviously never my intention

My concerns were based on several threads so why are you discounting my feelings based on this thread solely ?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well that was obviously never my intention

My concerns were based on several threads so why are you discounting my feelings based on this thread solely ?

…Zizu, your own words are…

‘You suggested that I’m imagining something because it isn’t present in this thread’

…there is nothing present in this thread that would in any way, indicate anything personal or in any way of being ‘contrary’ shall we say and now you’re looking at me and that I’m at fault in some way because you’ve continued the vein of a thread in a direction that just hadn’t existed and it seems, with the reasoning that you yourself seem to have some personal view or thoughts to voice ….

…as I say, this has got silly…you make many, many threads and many, many, many posts and what you’re saying essentially is that someone has disagreed/opposed even, your thoughts on a handful of occasions…can you not see that the reasoning for that isn’t that it’s in any way personal to you or against you but more that those are a small selection of topics/opinions etc that someone else has been very passionate about in their own opinion, which has been opposite to your own…

…ok, that really is enough…you yourself voice your passion about certain things and how your opinions are based etc and yet don’t seem to always allow the same of others, without feeling that it’s personal against you when it really isn’t there for anyone else to see that’s the way of it…


…getting back completely on track of the thread title…and touching on what Barry said…this edition of celebrity Traitors and at a peak of its popularity, attracted an excellent and first class cast…but even then, some would probably disagree with some of the casting of celebrities they’re less keen on…and that’s the problem, we do have pre fixed opinions of ‘celebrity’ and that can impact our enjoyment of a series and even for some, it could lose some viewers/fans …we’re all so ‘picky’ with BB celebrities and that’s how it would become with Traitors, I feel…so ‘culling’ atm and for the foreseeable of such a hugely successful formula right now would just to me, seem nonsensical…there is room for both and hopefully that will continue for a long while yet…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Zizu, your own words are…

‘You suggested that I’m imagining something because it isn’t present in this thread’

…there is nothing present in this thread that would in any way, indicate anything personal or in any way of being ‘contrary’ shall we say and now you’re looking at me and that I’m at fault in some way because you’ve continued the vein of a thread in a direction that just hadn’t existed and it seems, with the reasoning that you yourself seem to have some personal view or thoughts to voice ….

…as I say, this has got silly…you make many, many threads and many, many, many posts and what you’re saying essentially is that someone has disagreed/opposed even, your thoughts on a handful of occasions…can you not see that the reasoning for that isn’t that it’s in any way personal to you or against you but more that those are a small selection of topics/opinions etc that someone else has been very passionate about in their own opinion, which has been opposite to your own…

…ok, that really is enough…you yourself voice your passion about certain things and how your opinions are based etc and yet don’t seem to always allow the same of others, without feeling that it’s personal against you when it really isn’t there for anyone else to see that’s the way of it…


…getting back completely on track of the thread title…and touching on what Barry said…this edition of celebrity Traitors and at a peak of its popularity, attracted an excellent and first class cast…but even then, some would probably disagree with some of the casting of celebrities they’re less keen on…and that’s the problem, we do have pre fixed opinions of ‘celebrity’ and that can impact our enjoyment of a series and even for some, it could lose some viewers/fans …we’re all so ‘picky’ with BB celebrities and that’s how it would become with Traitors, I feel…so ‘culling’ atm and for the foreseeable of such a hugely successful formula right now would just to me, seem nonsensical…there is room for both and hopefully that will continue for a long while yet…

You make some very fair points

Apologies to Benjamin and yourself

PS

I have sent a message of apology to Benjamin

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Ok

Apologies to Benjamin and yourself

PS

I have sent a message of apology to Benjamin

…I apologise also and have never meant to offend in any way…..

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I apologise also and have never meant to offend in any way…..

There’s simply no need !!

I am just too anxious and over sensitive then I get embroiled in undesirable situations

[GoldHeart]

I don't think they should scrap the civilian Traitors,even though I stopped watching the last one as I lost interest. And I actually preferred the celebrity one....it even had more laughs. But I think they should keep both for now.

But I definitely find myself getting more into the celebrity one.

[bots]

no traitors season will ever be the same because it's down to the personalities of the players both individually and collectively, so i don't think the premise that a celebrity version is better is accurate