[stoney]

Mr 100% honest and real, JJ ,has fallen out repeatedly with people because they have said something that , in his opinion, would make him look bad on the outside.

he sulked about SS, ben, Josie, dave, corin, ife and ranted about them saying something that would make him look a fool or bad in the eyes of the GBP.

At the same time he has repeatedly said that he doesn't give a stuff about what the public think when trying to score points off other inmates

so can some of you JJ supporters tell me which side of JJ is the 100% honest and real side and what one is the sly gameplayer side thanks

[yousoboo!]

JJ is just about the most pathetic excuse for a man that has ever entered the BB house.

[-Sue-]

(Ben & Andy & Keeley in bedroom)
ben ' this is a bit wired for me as i dont really understand what this is all about'
keeleyy 'its all good benjamin'
ben 'johns going to be a total for the whole weekend he is you can see in the bloody hut thats why i called him unemployed
cos he was having a go at me constantly and im not gonna put up with it'
andy ' do you think he likes you'
ben 'yeah he does like me but he uses me im the only person that really stands up to him anyway'
andy 'I know how you feel keep you chin up you it will be alright'
(john wanders over to where Ben & keeley, & andy are in the bedroom)
ben ' you love this john dont you'
JJ ' the fact that ive got no circulation going into my head no not really'
ben ' you havent got my braincells so that wouldnt do any harm'
ben you love the fact that your taking the cronic out of me
jj 'but benjamin you ask for insults cos you rip them outyou rip out worst insults than what I could ever imagine'
ben ' well thats because ive got more of an imagination..'
JJ ' no its because your ruder'
ben 'im..'
Jj' its not about imagination its just things that I would never dream of saying'
jj ' i dont care.. i dont care about the money i dont care about being on this show i dont care about being unemployedi dont care about those sort of things that you care about'
ben ' i dont care about those things either'
jj ' why did you bring it up?'
ben ' cos you are having a constant go at me and you always do'
jj ' i have to dress like you ben'
ben ' well why is that my fault, i cant explain it you would never understand but you are aggressive towards me and i dont know why'
jj ' you continue to tell me that im stupid that i have no braicells that im thick and now you've just had a pop at
the point taht im unemployed and you had a pop at my family and you hada pop at them whilst i was here and at what i eat
you had a pop at my dietry requirements
ben 'but thats because you dont leave me alone though john#
jj ' but for no reason you pop out these insults after insult after insult for no reason benny and you can't see it'
ben 'but let the public decide on that one'
jj ' the public what public what public what are you talking about ben'
(rachel speaks up trying to make peace between them both)
ben ' no no its nothing but what is...'
jj ' what do you mean let the public decide
(JJ talking to Rachel)
jj' nonononono you keep bringing in the public what has the public im sick of you talking about the public I dont care about
the public i dont care about the program its not about the program maybe it is to some of yous but its not about the programme
to me'
rachel 'stop stop stop stop'
jj ' so if you wanna go out there and get your little job in america cos you wanna fake who you are as a person inside here thats your
problem but I dont wanna do that if you bring up about the public one time again i will never ever speak to you as long as I live
jj ' im not on this show for the public or for you or to make ayone else happy i am on the show for enjoyment for myself
not to make the public happy if thats constantly going through your mind which it is as you constantly bring it up
(piss take oice lol) huh.. let the public decide let the public decide
(video cuts to kitchen)
keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)
jj ' ben we have got a massive clash when it comes to team work either you avoid it because i know the way you are but I have got a
massive problem with it massive problem..i cant stand it'
ben ' but I no not never like apart from when we have banta and i do maybe say things i shouldnt say but i ever go after you though
that is true i never ever go after you'
jj ' the things that i do do not effect the group as far..'
ben (interrupts) ...'but they do'
jj ' as far as eating and showering'
ben (interrupts)..'eating and showering but your anger you change the atmostphere of the whole place like that (clicks fingers) and i
dont have a go at you over that ever'
jj ' i dont give a a flying fffffff what you do for the people outside the house i dont care i care about what youd o for people inside
the house right here concerns me'
keeva 'if JJ is gonna say something ignore it laugh about it laugh it off dont be so sensitive abou it i know its difficult'
ben (interupts) ' but he would be sensitive if i needled him all the time and you know he would.. if I constantly followed him...

JJ ' i would just say it to yer face yeah'









seems honest to me

[Angus]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

(Ben & Andy & Keeley in bedroom)
ben ' this is a bit wired for me as i dont really understand what this is all about'
keeleyy 'its all good benjamin'
ben 'johns going to be a total for the whole weekend he is you can see in the bloody hut thats why i called him unemployed
cos he was having a go at me constantly and im not gonna put up with it'
andy ' do you think he likes you'
ben 'yeah he does like me but he uses me im the only person that really stands up to him anyway'
andy 'I know how you feel keep you chin up you it will be alright'
(john wanders over to where Ben & keeley, & andy are in the bedroom)
ben ' you love this john dont you'
JJ ' the fact that ive got no circulation going into my head no not really'
ben ' you havent got my braincells so that wouldnt do any harm'
ben you love the fact that your taking the cronic out of me
jj 'but benjamin you ask for insults cos you rip them outyou rip out worst insults than what I could ever imagine'
ben ' well thats because ive got more of an imagination..'
JJ ' no its because your ruder'
ben 'im..'
Jj' its not about imagination its just things that I would never dream of saying'
jj ' i dont care.. i dont care about the money i dont care about being on this show i dont care about being unemployedi dont care about those sort of things that you care about'
ben ' i dont care about those things either'
jj ' why did you bring it up?'
ben ' cos you are having a constant go at me and you always do'
jj ' i have to dress like you ben'
ben ' well why is that my fault, i cant explain it you would never understand but you are aggressive towards me and i dont know why'
jj ' you continue to tell me that im stupid that i have no braicells that im thick and now you've just had a pop at
the point taht im unemployed and you had a pop at my family and you hada pop at them whilst i was here and at what i eat
you had a pop at my dietry requirements
ben 'but thats because you dont leave me alone though john#
jj ' but for no reason you pop out these insults after insult after insult for no reason benny and you can't see it'
ben 'but let the public decide on that one'
jj ' the public what public what public what are you talking about ben'
(rachel speaks up trying to make peace between them both)
ben ' no no its nothing but what is...'
jj ' what do you mean let the public decide
(JJ talking to Rachel)
jj' nonononono you keep bringing in the public what has the public im sick of you talking about the public I dont care about
the public i dont care about the program its not about the program maybe it is to some of yous but its not about the programme
to me'
rachel 'stop stop stop stop'
jj ' so if you wanna go out there and get your little job in america cos you wanna fake who you are as a person inside here thats your
problem but I dont wanna do that if you bring up about the public one time again i will never ever speak to you as long as I live
jj ' im not on this show for the public or for you or to make ayone else happy i am on the show for enjoyment for myself
not to make the public happy if thats constantly going through your mind which it is as you constantly bring it up
(piss take oice lol) huh.. let the public decide let the public decide
(video cuts to kitchen)
keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)
jj ' ben we have got a massive clash when it comes to team work either you avoid it because i know the way you are but I have got a
massive problem with it massive problem..i cant stand it'
ben ' but I no not never like apart from when we have banta and i do maybe say things i shouldnt say but i ever go after you though
that is true i never ever go after you'
jj ' the things that i do do not effect the group as far..'
ben (interrupts) ...'but they do'
jj ' as far as eating and showering'
ben (interrupts)..'eating and showering but your anger you change the atmostphere of the whole place like that (clicks fingers) and i
dont have a go at you over that ever'
jj ' i dont give a a flying fffffff what you do for the people outside the house i dont care i care about what youd o for people inside
the house right here concerns me'
keeva 'if JJ is gonna say something ignore it laugh about it laugh it off dont be so sensitive abou it i know its difficult'
ben (interupts) ' but he would be sensitive if i needled him all the time and you know he would.. if I constantly followed him...

JJ ' i would just say it to yer face yeah'









seems honest to me

I especially noticed JJ's posture, where he was standing and the way he kept flicking his eyes to the cameras to ensure they were getting his best side! Oh yeah he's the biggest gameplayer in there (not a problem in my book cos they all are), and always banging on about other people being "fake", having game plans, yet he bitches for the Olympics - who the ***** is he kidding. There is no way is he "REAL" or "HONEST".

[Jordan.]

Of course he cares, hence the all 'lets act shocked i stayed' when Nathan went.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

(Ben & Andy & Keeley in bedroom)
ben ' this is a bit wired for me as i dont really understand what this is all about'
keeleyy 'its all good benjamin'
ben 'johns going to be a total for the whole weekend he is you can see in the bloody hut thats why i called him unemployed
cos he was having a go at me constantly and im not gonna put up with it'
andy ' do you think he likes you'
ben 'yeah he does like me but he uses me im the only person that really stands up to him anyway'
andy 'I know how you feel keep you chin up you it will be alright'
(john wanders over to where Ben & keeley, & andy are in the bedroom)
ben ' you love this john dont you'
JJ ' the fact that ive got no circulation going into my head no not really'
ben ' you havent got my braincells so that wouldnt do any harm'
ben you love the fact that your taking the cronic out of me
jj 'but benjamin you ask for insults cos you rip them outyou rip out worst insults than what I could ever imagine'
ben ' well thats because ive got more of an imagination..'
JJ ' no its because your ruder'
ben 'im..'
Jj' its not about imagination its just things that I would never dream of saying'
jj ' i dont care.. i dont care about the money i dont care about being on this show i dont care about being unemployedi dont care about those sort of things that you care about'
ben ' i dont care about those things either'
jj ' why did you bring it up?'
ben ' cos you are having a constant go at me and you always do'
jj ' i have to dress like you ben'
ben ' well why is that my fault, i cant explain it you would never understand but you are aggressive towards me and i dont know why'
jj ' you continue to tell me that im stupid that i have no braicells that im thick and now you've just had a pop at
the point taht im unemployed and you had a pop at my family and you hada pop at them whilst i was here and at what i eat
you had a pop at my dietry requirements
ben 'but thats because you dont leave me alone though john#
jj ' but for no reason you pop out these insults after insult after insult for no reason benny and you can't see it'
ben 'but let the public decide on that one'
jj ' the public what public what public what are you talking about ben'
(rachel speaks up trying to make peace between them both)
ben ' no no its nothing but what is...'
jj ' what do you mean let the public decide
(JJ talking to Rachel)
jj' nonononono you keep bringing in the public what has the public im sick of you talking about the public I dont care about
the public i dont care about the program its not about the program maybe it is to some of yous but its not about the programme
to me'
rachel 'stop stop stop stop'
jj ' so if you wanna go out there and get your little job in america cos you wanna fake who you are as a person inside here thats your
problem but I dont wanna do that if you bring up about the public one time again i will never ever speak to you as long as I live
jj ' im not on this show for the public or for you or to make ayone else happy i am on the show for enjoyment for myself
not to make the public happy if thats constantly going through your mind which it is as you constantly bring it up
(piss take oice lol) huh.. let the public decide let the public decide
(video cuts to kitchen)
keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)
jj ' ben we have got a massive clash when it comes to team work either you avoid it because i know the way you are but I have got a
massive problem with it massive problem..i cant stand it'
ben ' but I no not never like apart from when we have banta and i do maybe say things i shouldnt say but i ever go after you though
that is true i never ever go after you'
jj ' the things that i do do not effect the group as far..'
ben (interrupts) ...'but they do'
jj ' as far as eating and showering'
ben (interrupts)..'eating and showering but your anger you change the atmostphere of the whole place like that (clicks fingers) and i
dont have a go at you over that ever'
jj ' i dont give a a flying fffffff what you do for the people outside the house i dont care i care about what youd o for people inside
the house right here concerns me'
keeva 'if JJ is gonna say something ignore it laugh about it laugh it off dont be so sensitive abou it i know its difficult'
ben (interupts) ' but he would be sensitive if i needled him all the time and you know he would.. if I constantly followed him...

JJ ' i would just say it to yer face yeah'









seems honest to me

And that is why JJ is brilliant. Pretty much all the rest of the housemates wouldn't dare to say what JJ said. Why? Scared of the public's thoughts.

Ben being a prime example of this.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

And that is why JJ is brilliant. Pretty much all the rest of the housemates wouldn't dare to say what JJ said. Why? Scared of the public's thoughts.

Ben being a prime example of this.

Yeah, that's why Ben curries favour with the public by NOT participating in tasks if he doesn't want to; not being a team player; not cleaning etc;
Way to go Ben, that really shows he cares about public opinion

JJ is constantly talking about other peoples' game plans, he is obsessed, and why? Because he needs to ensure his game plan is better. He is a hypocrite of the worst kind; his desire to stir up negativity and mayhem in the house is the EXACT OPPOSITE of being a team player, besides the fact he supposedly "threw" the S&R task(what he was accusing Ben of doing). JJ has monumental and marathon bitching sessions, but no doubt JJ supporters will say "oh he was just making observations". They ALL bitch in there, and JJ is the worst offender. FACT. Unlike JJ, Ben (and his supporters) admit his many faults.

JJ is probably the fakest HM ever,- even his persona is not real, attempting to impersonate a middle aged footie star! He has no conversation - he talks AT people without allowing them to respond properly, and he constantly presses the repeat button till he beats his opposition down out of sheer tedium. It's obviously a technique that has been learnt by him as a coping strategy since he was bullied at school. The fact that Ben can't be arsed to argue with a cerebrally challenged little tosser is hardly proof that JJ "won" the argument. An argument is two sided, what JJ did was harangue Ben - quite a difference

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

(Ben & Andy & Keeley in bedroom)
ben ' this is a bit wired for me as i dont really understand what this is all about'
keeleyy 'its all good benjamin'
ben 'johns going to be a total for the whole weekend he is you can see in the bloody hut thats why i called him unemployed
cos he was having a go at me constantly and im not gonna put up with it'
andy ' do you think he likes you'
ben 'yeah he does like me but he uses me im the only person that really stands up to him anyway'
andy 'I know how you feel keep you chin up you it will be alright'
(john wanders over to where Ben & keeley, & andy are in the bedroom)
ben ' you love this john dont you'
JJ ' the fact that ive got no circulation going into my head no not really'
ben ' you havent got my braincells so that wouldnt do any harm'
ben you love the fact that your taking the cronic out of me
jj 'but benjamin you ask for insults cos you rip them outyou rip out worst insults than what I could ever imagine'
ben ' well thats because ive got more of an imagination..'
JJ ' no its because your ruder'
ben 'im..'
Jj' its not about imagination its just things that I would never dream of saying'
jj ' i dont care.. i dont care about the money i dont care about being on this show i dont care about being unemployedi dont care about those sort of things that you care about'
ben ' i dont care about those things either'
jj ' why did you bring it up?'
ben ' cos you are having a constant go at me and you always do'
jj ' i have to dress like you ben'
ben ' well why is that my fault, i cant explain it you would never understand but you are aggressive towards me and i dont know why'
jj ' you continue to tell me that im stupid that i have no braicells that im thick and now you've just had a pop at
the point taht im unemployed and you had a pop at my family and you hada pop at them whilst i was here and at what i eat
you had a pop at my dietry requirements
ben 'but thats because you dont leave me alone though john#
jj ' but for no reason you pop out these insults after insult after insult for no reason benny and you can't see it'
ben 'but let the public decide on that one'
jj ' the public what public what public what are you talking about ben'
(rachel speaks up trying to make peace between them both)
ben ' no no its nothing but what is...'
jj ' what do you mean let the public decide
(JJ talking to Rachel)
jj' nonononono you keep bringing in the public what has the public im sick of you talking about the public I dont care about
the public i dont care about the program its not about the program maybe it is to some of yous but its not about the programme
to me'
rachel 'stop stop stop stop'
jj ' so if you wanna go out there and get your little job in america cos you wanna fake who you are as a person inside here thats your
problem but I dont wanna do that if you bring up about the public one time again i will never ever speak to you as long as I live
jj ' im not on this show for the public or for you or to make ayone else happy i am on the show for enjoyment for myself
not to make the public happy if thats constantly going through your mind which it is as you constantly bring it up
(piss take oice lol) huh.. let the public decide let the public decide
(video cuts to kitchen)
keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)
jj ' ben we have got a massive clash when it comes to team work either you avoid it because i know the way you are but I have got a
massive problem with it massive problem..i cant stand it'
ben ' but I no not never like apart from when we have banta and i do maybe say things i shouldnt say but i ever go after you though
that is true i never ever go after you'
jj ' the things that i do do not effect the group as far..'
ben (interrupts) ...'but they do'
jj ' as far as eating and showering'
ben (interrupts)..'eating and showering but your anger you change the atmostphere of the whole place like that (clicks fingers) and i
dont have a go at you over that ever'
jj ' i dont give a a flying fffffff what you do for the people outside the house i dont care i care about what youd o for people inside
the house right here concerns me'
keeva 'if JJ is gonna say something ignore it laugh about it laugh it off dont be so sensitive abou it i know its difficult'
ben (interupts) ' but he would be sensitive if i needled him all the time and you know he would.. if I constantly followed him...

JJ ' i would just say it to yer face yeah'









seems honest to me

You cannot, in an argument say that you don't think about the public. As soon as you mention the public you are thinking about them. If you continue to repeat the point over and over it becomes obvious that what you are actually doing is putting on a performance for the benefit of the cameras and nothing to do with what is going on in the house. Once you understand this, you get a glimpse into JJ's gameplan, if you simply take it on face value then you have been hoodwinked by one of the least intellectually bothered HMs of all time.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Shiner

You cannot, in an argument say that you don't think about the public. As soon as you mention the public you are thinking about them. If you continue to repeat the point over and over it becomes obvious that what you are actually doing is putting on a performance for the benefit of the cameras and nothing to do with what is going on in the house. Once you understand this, you get a glimpse into JJ's gameplan, if you simply take it on face value then you have been hoodwinked by one of the least intellectually bothered HMs of all time.

EXACTLY! He was grandstanding - it was so blatantly obvious - EXCEPT to those who don't want to see!

I hope the public return the favour by saying to JJ "***** YOU" next time he's up.