[Brillopad]

The Left wing president of Austria has said ominously "and it is not only Muslim women, all women can wear a headscarf, and if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf - all - out of solidarity to those who do it for religous reasons".

Isn't this left wing PC propaganda exactly why so many have concerns about both Islam and PC. This left wing Western idiot is suggesting that all women should in time be 'forced' in one way or another to wear a headscarf to appease Muslims.

As a woman I for one will NEVER 'comply' with such garbage. Thoughts please!

[Beso]

I think you have taken this poor mans words, jumbled them up a bit then wiped your nose across your keyboard and come up with an unbiased opinion cause that man is not saying any of that at all.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think you have taken this poor mans words, jumbled them up a bit then wiped your nose across your keyboard and come up with an unbiased opinion cause that man is not saying any of that at all.

I simply copied his words (note the quotation marks). He said it. No poor man about it.

Just look it up yourself.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Sometimes Muslim people are getting more respect than they deserve.

Just saying. I am against discrimination but majority of muslim people need a reality check that they are not the only group in this world and they need to respect others to earn respect back.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by VanessaFeltz.

Sometimes Muslim people are getting more respect than they deserve.

Just saying. I am against discrimination but majority of muslim people need a reality check that they are not the only group in this world and they need to respect others to earn respect back.

Wise words Vanessa.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by VanessaFeltz.

Sometimes Muslim people are getting more respect than they deserve.

Just saying. I am against discrimination but majority of muslim people need a reality check that they are not the only group in this world and they need to respect others to earn respect back.

Wow!

I'll tell my Muslim work colleagues they need to step up their game and go and get themselves a reality check.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Wow!

I'll tell my Muslim work colleagues they need to step up their game and go and get themselves a reality check.

I think as a former muslim and living in a society where it is getting ruined day by day because we gave tolerated these people too much i know a lot more how majority of the muslims think than you. You can be sarcastic all you want but there is a great danger waiting for all societies and there are great societies have been ruined by radical islam.

Nobody is saying all muslims are included in this criteria but a message needs to be given out that some people need to get out of their deluded bubbles that their beliefs and life styles are not the only thing in this world.

There are actually gay people getting tortured in russia, they are stealing our hard earned 100 year old rights in turkey and has anyone did or even say something about this? No because everybody is self centered only care about what is in front of them. But everyone gets riled about something small happens like comment sections in daily mail or a woman wearing burka while doing a sport.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by VanessaFeltz.

I think as a former muslim and living in a society where it is getting ruined day by day because we gave tolerated these people too much i know a lot more how majority of the muslims think than you. You can be sarcastic all you want but there is a great danger waiting for all societies and there are great societies have been ruined by radical islam.

Your assumption is wrong. There is only one person who knows my history on here and that's Kirk. I know if he was here he'd be pming me and laughing at your suggestion of knowing more than me.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Your assumption is wrong. There is only one person who knows my history on here and that's Kirk. I know if he was here he'd be pming me and laughing at your suggestion of knowing more than me.

It sounds like you both have knowledge and experience on the subject but have different views. It certainly doesn't mean that an informed view that is different to yours is laughable. Different experiences and views.

Both are equally valid.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Your assumption is wrong. There is only one person who knows my history on here and that's Kirk. I know if he was here he'd be pming me and laughing at your suggestion of knowing more than me.

VF lives in Turkey I think he knows what he is talking about

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The Left wing president of Austria has said ominously "and it is not only Muslim women, all women can wear a headscarf, and if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf - all - out of solidarity to those who do it for religous reasons".

Isn't this left wing PC propaganda exactly why so many have concerns about both Islam and PC. This left wing Western idiot is suggesting that all women should in time be 'forced' in one way or another to wear a headscarf to appease Muslims.

As a woman I for one will NEVER 'comply' with such garbage. Thoughts please!

If you are going to quote some words from an article, then at least post the entire link because its impossible to debate without the full story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7707166.html

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

If you are going to quote some words from an article, then at least post the entire link because its impossible to debate without the full story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7707166.html

I am using a tablet and don't know to do it, I would have done otherwise.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The Left wing president of Austria has said ominously "and it is not only Muslim women, all women can wear a headscarf, and if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf - all - out of solidarity to those who do it for religous reasons".

Isn't this left wing PC propaganda exactly why so many have concerns about both Islam and PC. This left wing Western idiot is suggesting that all women should in time be 'forced' in one way or another to wear a headscarf to appease Muslims.

As a woman I for one will NEVER 'comply' with such garbage. Thoughts please!

They can kiss my little ass too,sick of cowtowing to what others want,about time we thought about what we want, and it's not women wearing headscarves,bloody idiot whoever he is.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They can kiss my little ass too,sick of cowtowing to what others want,about time we thought about what we want, and it's not women wearing headscarves,bloody idiot whoever he is.

My thoughts exactly Kazanne - what next I wonder!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

My thoughts exactly Kazanne - what next I wonder!

We'll be told to stay at home and do the dishes next because we all know how superior some think they are.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We'll be told to stay at home and do the dishes next because we all know how superior some think they are.

Youtube video

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

My thoughts exactly Kazanne - what next I wonder!

I stopped yesterday because I heard this old woman having a right old rant at a big issue seller. She was a Rumanian Orthodox Christian so her head was covered and she wore a long skirt. The intolerant old woman clearly thought she was a Muslim and believed she had some divine right to relieve her bitter and pent up hatred on her. That is the second time in as many weeks that I've seen this happen.

This is what we are going to see more and more of. This is what's next.... pent up anger and hatred spat out at Muslims or people mistaken for Muslims. People feeling brave enough to show that hatred and intolerance because they know they've now got more support than they've ever had.

What comes after 'next'? a badge?

[Cherie]

In fairness he also said this

“He also warned against ‘racism from the other side’, giving the example of a Muslim taxi driver refusing to take Orthodox Jews,” a statement said, adding: “This is absolutely unacceptable.”

I don't really get his point about wearing headscarves in solidarity, given a lot of Muslim women wear the scarves to please their husbands rather than for religious reasons. I work with a number of Muslim ladies the older ladies observe Ramadan and don't wear headscarves, the younger ones wear headscarves but only did so when they got married, I don't think either group would want me to wear a headscarf in solidarity with them

[DemolitionRed]

I agree that women in the West shouldn't wear the niqab but why would we stop them wearing a headscarf? Is it because its an expression their religious belief, because if so, we should also stop Hindus wearing the sari, the Sikh wearing the turban, the Jews wearing the kippah and the nuns and orthodox Christians wearing the habit.

Its a headscarf ffs.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I agree that women in the West shouldn't wear the niqab but why would we stop them wearing a headscarf? Is it because its an expression their religious belief, because if so, we should also stop Hindus wearing the sari, the Sikh wearing the turban, the Jews wearing the kippah and the nuns and orthodox Christians wearing the habit.

Its a headscarf ffs.

Well in todays climate it's good to see people faces,so the full face thing should be a thing of the past,nothing to do with religion,more to do with safety I would think,if they want to wear a headscarf fair enough but it shouldn't be forced on anyone to do so.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I agree that women in the West shouldn't wear the niqab but why would we stop them wearing a headscarf? Is it because its an expression their religious belief, because if so, we should also stop Hindus wearing the sari, the Sikh wearing the turban, the Jews wearing the kippah and the nuns and orthodox Christians wearing the habit.

Its a headscarf ffs.

Personally I don't have a problem with the headscarf but for a Western politician to even suggest all women should wear one to support a given religion is worrying and completly unacceptable.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Personally I don't have a problem with the headscarf but for a Western politician to even suggest all women should wear one to support a given religion is worrying and completly unacceptable.

Correct.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Personally I don't have a problem with the headscarf but for a Western politician to even suggest all women should wear one to support a given religion is worrying and completly unacceptable.

On the 2nd of January this year was a day of global solidarity for the Muslim headscarf. The message was, "I have the freedom to wear what I want"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

On the 2nd of January this year was a day of global solidarity for the Muslim headscarf. The message was, "I have the freedom to wear what I want"

Do they though or in some cases are their husbands dictating?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Do they though or in some cases are their husbands dictating?

Muslim women and Orthodox Christian women are brought up differently to us. They are taught from an early age that a woman will only be respected by god if she shows modesty and a Muslim woman's hair is seen by those who are practising Muslims as the most sensual thing she posses.

You could compare that with the way we see a woman's breasts in the West. If we went over to Africa and mixed with tribal women who went about their work topless, would we feel comfortable doing the same? I probably wouldn't because it would make me feel vulnerable.