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Default Labour: 673 anti-Semitism complaints in 10 months

The Labour Party has received 673 complaints in 10 months alleging acts of anti-Semitism by its members.

A letter from the party's general secretary, Jennie Formby, revealed the figures after she was pushed by MPs for specific details.

She said 96 members were immediately suspended from the party for their conduct between April 2018 and January 2019, and 12 were expelled.

Labour has struggled to contain a long-running row over anti-Semitism.

At a meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) last week, MPs unanimously passed a motion urging the leadership to do more to tackle it.

They also called for specific details about how many people were being investigated, how many letters had been written to those accused telling to them to desist and what punishments had been given.

Ms Formby said: "I totally reject the suggestion that the existence of anti-Semitism in our party is a smear. I have seen hard evidence of it and that is why I have been so determined to do whatever is possible to eliminate it from the party."

But Labour MP Dame Margaret Hodge tweeted a warning not to trust the figures and said she was not convinced the party's leadership were "serious on rooting out anti-Semitism".

She said the party's National Executive Committee (NEC) previously believed that statistics on disciplinary matters should remain confidential and not be published.

But after MPs rejected her proposal of having three elected members monitoring the figures regularly, she said she "pushed hard" to get the NEC to agree to publish them.

The data published revealed:

673 complaints of anti-Semitism by Labour Party members were received - a Labour spokesman said this represented about 0.1% of the membership
96 members were immediately suspended after complaints were made and a further 211 were told they would be investigated
146 members received a first warning, and 220 cases did not have sufficient evidence of a breach of party rules for an investigation
Of the 307 who were suspended or notified of an investigation, 44 members left the party

Another 96 were referred to the party's anti-Semitism Disputes Panel
Of the 96, 16 members were issued with a formal warning from the National Executive Committee, six members' cases were referred for further investigation, 25 members were issued with reminder of conduct (a first written warning), and seven members' cases were closed as the full evidence suggested no further action should be taken

The panel decided to refer the other 42 members to Labour's National Constitutional Committee (NCC), with five members leaving before their cases were reviewed

Of the 37 cases referred to the NCC, 12 members were expelled and six received sanctions, while the rest await their outcome
The other members who were suspended or notified of an investigation are either still under investigation or are cases where the investigation revealed evidence that meant the case could not be pursued further.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47203397

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673 instances of over 450,000 members.

Amounting to a miniscule number as a pecentage.

Any found wrong and as being GENUINELY anti Semitic should have the book thrown at them rightly.

There have been expulsions from the Party.
Rightly too.

This has no place in the Party but on the figures above, (and despite the huffing and puffing of those who hate Corbyn and the left and always using this against the Labour Party), it appears hardly rife as they would possibly love it to be and suggest it is.

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if there had been 673 homophobic complaints or similar, heads would be rolling.
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if there had been 673 homophobic complaints or similar, heads would be rolling.
It would be equally as wrong in any Party.

All prejudice that genuinely incites hatred against any groups of people on any issue would be totally unacceptable and wrong.

Heads have rolled as far as they can.
Expulsions, suspensions and threats of more investigation in some cases.

If anyone can prove too there was any criminal action that could be behind anything done by these individuals, then the legal process should be brought in too.

There are problems across the political spectrum on anti semitism, racism and xenophobia.
Across the Parties.
If everyone did or dared complain, you may well see the complaints you list above on that and other issues too.

At least Labour has got the complaints coming in on this issue and on the opening post is starting to deal with it.
Although some who detest the left of politics will never accept that in the slightest.

Preferring to spout their hate of the left, while turning a blind eye to the wrongs of the minority of the right who also hold extreme prejudices.
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if there had been 673 homophobic complaints or similar, heads would be rolling.
or one racist complaint and career over
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Only 12 heads, sadly. 12 from 673. That's Labour dealing with it.
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Only 12 heads, sadly. 12 from 673. That's Labour dealing with it.
i was thinking management/executive heads. Take any large company with that level of incidents in their company, heads would roll from the board. In this case, the executive committee has to take responsibility, that where the buck stops, but I don't see anyone on that committee saying anything but "nothing to do with me"
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673 instances of over 450,000 members.

Amounting to a miniscule number as a pecentage.

Any found wrong and as being GENUINELY anti Semitic should have the book thrown at them rightly.

There have been expulsions from the Party.
Rightly too.

This has no place in the Party but on the figures above, (and despite the huffing and puffing of those who hate Corbyn and the left and always using this against the Labour Party), it appears hardly rife as they would possibly love it to be and suggest it is.


One is too many.

The constant denial is compounding the problem.
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One is too many.

The constant denial is compounding the problem.
In any party.

No one is denying the problem at all.
The vast majority of members in Labour and MPs want this sorted too.

It doesn't help either when you and others use it just to spout your likely hate of all on the left.

Which you do, every opportunity you can seize.
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In any party.

No one is denying the problem at all.
The vast majority of members in Labour and MPs want this sorted too.

It doesn't help either when you and others use it just to spout your likely hate of all on the left.

Which you do, every opportunity you can seize.
This thread isn't about me. But since you've mentioned it... you're on here making excuses for the anti-Semitism in the Labour party every time it's mentioned. About how it's only a small problem, and other parties are bad too, and your Jewish friends think it's all a storm in a teacup. Well it's not. It's a problem that Corbyn-led Labour has failed to address time and again and so has made it look acceptable. Probably the reason why attacks on Jews are at an all-time high, higher than any other minority group per head of capita.

I'd be the first to say that the Tories have a terrible backgound when it comes to diversity and old-fashioned views. It's undeniable. But that doesn't make Labour's refusal to deal with the problem of anti-Semitism any more acceptable.
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This thread isn't about me. But since you've mentioned it... you're on here making excuses for the anti-Semitism in the Labour party every time it's mentioned. About how it's only a small problem, and other parties are bad too, and your Jewish friends think it's all a storm in a teacup. Well it's not. It's a problem that Corbyn-led Labour has failed to address time and again and so has made it look acceptable. Probably the reason why attacks on Jews are at an all-time high, higher than any other minority group per head of capita.

I'd be the first to say that the Tories have a terrible backgound when it comes to diversity and old-fashioned views. It's undeniable. But that doesn't make Labour's refusal to deal with the problem of anti-Semitism any more acceptable.
No. As ever on me you are wrong, wrong and again wrong on me.

I am making no excuses for anti semitism and you should stop accusing of that.

I condemn anti semitism anywhere, anyhow by anyone as I've said on this thread too.

Genuine antisemitic views and actions are wrong.
I would as I said earlier, which had you read that and not just spouted your likely prejudiced hate against the left of politics,.
Seen I said anyone who wss antisemitic should have the book thrown at them.

Where is that making excuses.
There are people in the Con party who hold antisemitic views.
You'll bypass that likely.

Labour is dealing with it.
I wish quicker but it is as the opening post shows.

I have always been pro Israel and have abhorred antisemitism since I knew what it meant.

So I need no lectures from you in your irrational likely hate and spite against Labour and those on the left of politics.
Which you do every chance you get.
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Did the bnp get this many?
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Did the bnp get this many?
I don't think they even had 673 members.
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The problem is from Corbyn down.
He doesn’t want to be falling out with his Mates the Hamas after all.
It comes to something when his own party are complaining about the lack and speed of any action.
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